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Re: 60D owners...help, i need reassurance before i pull the trigger
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2012, 07:01:42 PM »
I have a 60D and love it. I moved up from a T2i for the ergonomics. Some of that can be overcome with a grip (and I ended up getting a 3rd party grip for my 60D). That helps with balance and overall handling, although the mode wheel lock, back wheel, etc make a big difference if you fiddle with the controls. If you shoot on auto-everything mode, then they probably won't be that much of an advantage, and I'd go for the t4i for the newer sensor and hybrid AF.

For my "kit" lens, I have a Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 non-VC. Very good image quality, but it is not a USM AF, so don't get if you want full time MF and/or a quiet autofocus. Also no IS, but that is not usually too big of a deal unless you plan to shoot a lot of video.

I also have the 100mm nonL Macro. AWESOME lens- but I've used it mainly for critters. Can not speak to it as a portrait lens. I have a ring flash, but now shoot more with a diffused 430EX on an adjustable flash bracket.

I'm in love with the 70-300L- if you don't shoot wildlife, probably one of the 70-200L might be a good purchase.

I've only run into AF problems in extreme situations (e.g. shooting flying birds). I could see an argument for a better AF camera if you were shooting a ton of fast sports, but in most cases the center point is good enough (I keep my AF on center point, use back-button focus, and recompose or crop for composition).

I have the nifty fifty, which is hard to turn down given the price, but to be honest I don't use it very much.

I also recently got the Sigma 8-16, but that's really not a lens you want to use with people for the most part (in my experience).

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here's a BBQ I took photos at last weekend
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Re: 60D owners...help, i need reassurance before i pull the trigger
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2012, 07:01:42 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2012, 09:38:46 PM »
I, too, moved up to the 60D from a T2i a year ago. My T2i's AF was all over the place; the 60D's, while not perfect, is better.

Unless you're a heavy-duty sports shooter (in which case a 7D or 5D3 may be better) it will do what you want it to do and more. The lens you put on it can make all the difference in the world, however.

I have used the 60D for some action photography- I'm really not a sports shooter but I've gotten a decent hit rate. I do find myself sometimes wanting something a bit more than the 9 focus points but it's MUCH better than what I was using before (P&S).

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Re: 60D owners...help, i need reassurance before i pull the trigger
« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2012, 06:36:36 AM »
Ok so if I went with the clp...it'll be $640 for the 60D body.  I forgot to ask the guy about a discount on a refurb lens. But canons website has a refurb 15-85mm for $640. Those two would put me at $1280. Plus I like the 50mm f1.8 so that's another $100.  At $1380...well just say $1400...is that a good start?  Should I look at another combination? Maybe the 60d with the 18-135 for $840, the 50mm for $100, and non-L 100mm macro for $560...that's exactly $1500.  Decisions decisions AAAHHH!!!!!!  Might be over complicating things though.

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Re: 60D owners...help, i need reassurance before i pull the trigger
« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2012, 07:26:39 AM »
and non-L 100mm macro for $560...that's exactly $1500

As I wrote before, there is really no need to get this new, I'd even say it's overpriced new in comparison to the versatility of the L. And the L even includes a FREE lens hood :-). And note that there a Canon cash-back rebates that'll chop some $$$ of your purchases.

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Re: 60D owners...help, i need reassurance before i pull the trigger
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2012, 07:51:36 AM »
I've got 60D from about a year and I'm pleased with the performance. It's a great camera that can be used in so many situations. You should get fast prime(like cheap canon 50 1.8) and a good zoom and check what are your need further.

Good luck!

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« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2012, 09:12:37 AM »
I have 60D about a year ago. I do miss the swivel screen for video shooting. I have two kids,  3.5yrs and 1.5yrs. Been there done that  ;)

DO NOT buy kit lens and use it 60D. With newborn - you will be shooting alot indoor first couple years - this is where you need fast lens, f2.8 or bigger. With 60D, try to keep your ISO below 800, otherwise your pics will look very noisy.

With the budget of $1500, try one of these lenses:
1. 28mm f1.8
2. 50 f1.4 or f1.8 (might not be wide enough for indoor)
3. 17-55 f2.8 IS (little pricy, but this is the BEST lens for crop sensor)

Here are some pix I took last year with 60D + 28mm and 50mm prime. JPEG without PP. straight from camera.
http://s1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa384/fifo_warehouse/60D%20Pix/?albumview=slideshow
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Zoom: 16-35L f4 IS -- 24-70L II -- 70-200L f2.8 IS II
Prime: 40mm -- 85L II -- 135L -- 200L f2 IS -- 400L f2.8 IS II

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Re: 60D owners...help, i need reassurance before i pull the trigger
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2012, 09:12:37 AM »

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« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2012, 10:24:24 AM »
Personally, for someone on a budget I'd seriously recommend (or second alan_k's recommendation) that you consider the 17-50 f/2.8 non-VC for a basic/fast kit zoom lens. The Canon 17-55 F2.8 is a bit nicer lens with IS, but it costs at least 3 times as much. The images we get from our Tamron are much sharper than when we had the Canon 18-135, although you lose the long zoom end. For indoor shots the faster aperture of the Tamron made it MUCH more useable than the 18-135 or 18-200 without having to break out the flash for active kids. I got mine used for less than $300. For the difference I saved over the Canon 17-55 F2.8 I bought a Canon 70-200 F4L to cover the long end. The only thing I don't like about the Tamron lens is that the AF is a little noisy; but then when I'm comparing it to L series lenses its a little unfair.

I love prime lenses, and wish I had the money to get another one, but for a casual photographer looking to capture those unforgettable family moments, it's really hard to beat the versatility of a zoom lens.
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Re: 60D owners...help, i need reassurance before i pull the trigger
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2012, 10:28:00 AM »
I am surprised no one here has pointed out that the 60D lacks the AF micro-adjustment feature.  I have a 60D and really like it but was unaware it lacked that feature when I bought it.  At the time I chose it over the 7D because ergonomically it just felt better in my hand.  I had the 60D + 18-200 when I went to Africa last year and was very happy with that combo (perhaps I lucked out and got a very good copy of that lens).  But as I started to accumulate lenses, not all of them played nice with the 60D and I had no way to adjust for that.  I got so frustrated that I bought a used 7D, calibrated my lenses and now my 60D stays at home unless my husband takes it out.  So just be aware of this.  I will say that the 60D is a great camera to learn on because it is less complicated than the 7D, but for me the 7D wins.

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« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2012, 12:07:57 PM »
I think the 60D plus 18-135 might be a good move.  The 60D is an awesome camera.  The 18-135 isn't exactly optically perfect, but it's a very user-friendly lens capable of nice photos.  The incremental cost makes it great value.  You can always upgrade in the future, if you wish.

With the money freed up, I suggest buying a hotshoe flash.  Hotshoe flash is so much nicer than pop-up flash or ghoulish tungsten and fluorescent "natural" lighting.  There's a bit of a learning curve, but it's something that I do recommend.  Good lighting trumps minor flaws in lens optics IMO.

50/1.8 might be a good move too.  I've shot some real keepers of my nephews with this lens.  This'll be your lens for more "serious" photography - i.e. stuff you're gonna print and frame, rather than on-screen display or 4"x6" prints.

As for a macro lens, I suggest holding off just a little bit until you're really sure what focal length you like.  100/2.8 non-L is a wonderful lens but there's other great choices out there: e.g. Canon 60/2.8, Sigma 70/2.8, Tamron 90/2.8   Each of these is insanely sharp and produces wonderful bokeh.  I own the Tamron and it's a superb lens - cheaper too than Canon 100/2.8 and it often has good rebates.

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Re: 60D owners...help, i need reassurance before i pull the trigger
« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2012, 02:09:52 PM »
I am surprised no one here has pointed out that the 60D lacks the AF micro-adjustment feature.  I have a 60D and really like it but was unaware it lacked that feature when I bought it.

Same for me - but you can around the missing afma (Canon obviously cut it to make the 7d look better, thanks, Canon!) if you buy only new lenses, try if the af is ok and if not exchange it. Imho the missing afma is really an issue for lenses faster than f2.8 and 3rd party manufacturers whose manufacturing tolerances are not specifically calibrated for eos bodies.

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Re: 60D owners...help, i need reassurance before i pull the trigger
« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2012, 03:48:32 PM »
I am surprised no one here has pointed out that the 60D lacks the AF micro-adjustment feature.  I have a 60D and really like it but was unaware it lacked that feature when I bought it.  At the time I chose it over the 7D because ergonomically it just felt better in my hand.  I had the 60D + 18-200 when I went to Africa last year and was very happy with that combo (perhaps I lucked out and got a very good copy of that lens).  But as I started to accumulate lenses, not all of them played nice with the 60D and I had no way to adjust for that.  I got so frustrated that I bought a used 7D, calibrated my lenses and now my 60D stays at home unless my husband takes it out.  So just be aware of this.  I will say that the 60D is a great camera to learn on because it is less complicated than the 7D, but for me the 7D wins.

the 60D is a joke...plain and simple. policarbonate body, limited lcd on the top, lack of MFA, and a sensor that perform  worsta than a 600d.

if i would buy a new camera in that price range i would buy a pentax k5 if interested on photos and a 650d if interested on videos.

btw i guess the 60D performed quite good in a marketing ways, so kudos to canon's marketing guys
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Re: 60D owners...help, i need reassurance before i pull the trigger
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2012, 04:47:32 PM »
I am surprised no one here has pointed out that the 60D lacks the AF micro-adjustment feature.  I have a 60D and really like it but was unaware it lacked that feature when I bought it.  At the time I chose it over the 7D because ergonomically it just felt better in my hand.  I had the 60D + 18-200 when I went to Africa last year and was very happy with that combo (perhaps I lucked out and got a very good copy of that lens).  But as I started to accumulate lenses, not all of them played nice with the 60D and I had no way to adjust for that.  I got so frustrated that I bought a used 7D, calibrated my lenses and now my 60D stays at home unless my husband takes it out.  So just be aware of this.  I will say that the 60D is a great camera to learn on because it is less complicated than the 7D, but for me the 7D wins.

the 60D is a joke...plain and simple. policarbonate body, limited lcd on the top, lack of MFA, and a sensor that perform  worsta than a 600d.

if i would buy a new camera in that price range i would buy a pentax k5 if interested on photos and a 650d if interested on videos.

btw i guess the 60D performed quite good in a marketing ways, so kudos to canon's marketing guys

Lol yep, the 60D is a joke. A Super-rebel really, the 7D is the way to go for the extra $$$.

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Re: 60D owners...help, i need reassurance before i pull the trigger
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2012, 04:47:32 PM »

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« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2012, 06:20:25 PM »
But as I started to accumulate lenses, not all of them played nice with the 60D and I had no way to adjust for that.  I got so frustrated that I bought a used 7D, calibrated my lenses and now my 60D stays at home unless my husband takes it out.  So just be aware of this.  I will say that the 60D is a great camera to learn on because it is less complicated than the 7D, but for me the 7D wins.
I believe the 50D also has AFMA, so could be an option if you're on a budget and really want this.

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Re: 60D owners...help, i need reassurance before i pull the trigger
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2012, 10:04:17 PM »
just buy the t4i, or the t2i. the 60D is getting real old and has an old sensor. If you need something now, buy a refurbished T2i(or from the CLP,) for about 450 bucks. Then if you really want the new thing, sell it and buy the 70d or 7DII when it comes out.
The 60D is a waste of money at this point.
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