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24 f1.4L II or 16-35 f2.8L II

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waksfly:
I dont know which one to get because both are excellent lenses. Anyway i'll be using it for portraits(environmental, loose crop or anything that will add variations to my telephoto lens) on a 7D(waiting for the 5D III ;)) Basically i'm into portraits and landscapes. Thanks and please reply as i am still new to photography! :)

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--- Quote from: waksfly on March 17, 2011, 09:14:53 PM ---I dont know which one to get because both are excellent lenses. Anyway i'll be using it for portraits(environmental, loose crop or anything that will add variations to my telephoto lens) on a 7D(waiting for the 5D II ;)) Basically i'm into portraits and landscapes. Thanks and please reply as i am still new to photography! :)

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I would not get either for a 7D, a 17-55mm EF-s would be a easy choice.  However, you indicate that you are getting a 5D MK II, which also means lens focal lengths will be 1.6 times longer to get an equivalent field of view.

For a 7D, a typical portrait focal length might run from 55mm to 85mm, with 100mm being fine as well.  With a 5D, traditional focal lengths would run from 85mm to 135mm or even 200mm.

Longer focal lengths tend to flatter faces, while shorter focal lengths tend to exagerate facial features, noses look longer and larger, for example.

The common focal length here is 85mm, so that would be a good place to start for portraits.

You do not need ultra wide lenses for landscapes, some use telephoto lenses.  I'd stay with 17 - 50mm on a 7D, and 24-85mm on FF.  the 24mm L or a 35mm L would be a great choice for either 7D or 5D MK II.

waksfly:
if i go with the 16-35 i'm thinking it will be useful for my landscape needs where you have limited space to frame the scene, i can use the zoom to reframe. 24L II is better optically right? which is just perfect for portraits where i cud include the environment. thanks for the reply. anyway the 85 1.2L II is next after i fill my wide angle needs.

acoll123:
I have a 7D and the 16-35 f2.8L II. I find the 16-35 is a great walk-around lens and is particularly good for Landscapes. I occasionally use it for full-body portraits and group shots. It would be an ultra-wide on a full-frame though. I also have the 24-105 f4.0 L and think it is my most flexible lens I have used it for landscapes, candids and portraits. It is almost too slow for any action photos indoor - the IS is great non-action shots indoor. One of the 85 mm prime lenses would be great for both the 7D and a FF. I have the 1.2 and can get some stunning shots - see this candle light photo at a birthday party. I know - the noise is significant, i probably need to work on it a little more . . .

Viggo:
You don't buy the 17-55 if you're going full frame, as that lens is an ef-s and won't fit a 5d.

The 24 II L you don't get because of the superior IQ alone, you buy it because you get an f-stop of 1,4 instead of 2,8. It's the sickest piece of wideangle glass out there. And yeah, I have the 14 L II as well, but the 24 on my camera (1,3 crop) gives it roughly the same length as a 35 L will give you on FF, which is extremely useful lens. But for portraits? Nope.. You would use a 70-200 for example for general purposes and also protrait. The new 70-200 is the best zoom-lens ever made and it's scary sharp edge to edge on FF and VERY sharp wide open through all focals, no CA, and BLISTERING fast AF. Which makes it useful for everything, not just a specialized protrait lens.

If you want a lens just for portraits, the 85 L will do it better than any other lens. I traded mine for the new 70-200, but I have the 24 L II and the 50 L  for lowlight and portraits.

Many people buy the best lenses because they think they will get better pictures, which is very untrue in many cases. I'm not saying you do, but you should really get a proper light-setup and learn how to control light and balance ambient and flashes when you want to go more into protraits. I have never heard or seen anybody taking professional portraits without having absolute awarness and/or control over all the light hitting the subject. A flat and boring light-portrait taken with a 5d2 and 85mm f1,2 L will give you crappy results anyway, compared to having a 350d with a 50mm f1,8 and proper light setup and full control. If you see a billboard with a hot chick in a commercial, do you wonder what lens they used or do you think, "wow, that's such cool light" ? ( I would say, wow, hot chick, though :D

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