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Re: will canon make more pancakes?
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2012, 12:42:59 PM »
there seems to be a fair bit of interest in the shorty 40 (love that name!)

so will this be the start of a series of pancakes? I'd be pretty interested in a 20 or 21mm f2.8 pancake of similar design and price

Voigtlander makes a 20mm for a FF EF mount that is very close to being a "pancake" in size. Very high quality optically as well!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/676633-REG/Voigtlander_BA295AC_Color_Skopar_20mm_f_3_5.html
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Re: will canon make more pancakes?
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2012, 12:51:27 PM »
What would make more sense for a competitor to the Sigma 30? An EF or EF-s Canon lens?


A fast EF-S.  For EF, the 35L is close in focal length and is already an excellent lens.

Yes but a competitor on price as well.

Canon does not seem to want to compete at the lower price levels with the exception of the 40mm pancake.  Maybe their video lens strategy will be different their their still lens strategy, where every lens revision brings with it a large price increase.  I don't see Canon replicating Sigma's lens line up at the same price as what Sigma offers.

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Re: will canon make more pancakes?
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2012, 04:40:10 PM »
Perhaps, canon would require an outside company like hungry jack or pills bury to develop the very best pancakes!

hehe ... IHOP would be a another center of competence for pancakes!

Expect a brandnew, exciting series of pancakes on National pancake day (Feb 28)! http://www.ihoppancakeday.com/

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Re: will canon make more pancakes?
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2012, 06:01:00 PM »
Perhaps, canon would require an outside company like hungry jack or pills bury to develop the very best pancakes!

hehe ... IHOP would be a another center of competence for pancakes!

Expect a brandnew, exciting series of pancakes on National pancake day (Feb 28)! http://www.ihoppancakeday.com/
I still think Canon missed a trick when they didn't announce on Shrove Tuesday :P.
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Re: will canon make more pancakes?
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2012, 02:24:20 AM »
Perhaps, canon would require an outside company like hungry jack or pills bury to develop the very best pancakes!

Lol  :D

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Re: will canon make more pancakes?
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2012, 08:06:53 PM »
I'm skeptical such lens will perform well. But I'm willing to be proven wrong. When a lens is designed to fit a ruler instead of deliver optical performance....things usually don't work out.

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« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2012, 08:17:29 PM »
I'm skeptical such lens will perform well. But I'm willing to be proven wrong. When a lens is designed to fit a ruler instead of deliver optical performance....things usually don't work out.

Normally, you're right, and that's probably why canon's never made a pancake before (afaik).

But comparing the MTF of the pancake, 50/1.8 and 50/1.4, the pancake looks to be clearly winning.
Whether that's because of a rushed and/or lower-quality design of the 50s, or because it's easier to design slower lenses, or just 20 years-newer coatings or what, i don't know.

To be fairer we should compare the Pancake to the 50/2.5 Macro, anyone got the MTFs of that?
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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2012, 04:09:44 AM »
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But comparing the MTF of the pancake, 50/1.8 and 50/1.4, the pancake looks to be clearly winning.
Whether that's because of a rushed and/or lower-quality design of the 50s, or because it's easier to design slower lenses, or just 20 years-newer coatings or what, i don't know.

To be fairer we should compare the Pancake to the 50/2.5 Macro, anyone got the MTFs of that?

To be fairer, we should compare the Shorty 40 MTF to contemporaray 50's ... Nikon AF-S 50/1.4 and Sigma 50/1.4 :-)

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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2012, 04:09:44 AM »