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Could a 35mm f/1.2 L be in testing? (pic)
« on: June 20, 2012, 09:56:05 AM »
This is just a bit of fun, because this is certainly a typo but it's fun to speculate.  I was browsing Jeff Ascough's Canon profile and came across this shot.



EF35mm f/1.2L huh?  :o

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Could a 35mm f/1.2 L be in testing? (pic)
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2012, 10:25:52 AM »
Typo, typo, typo.
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Re: Could a 35mm f/1.2 L be in testing? (pic)
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2012, 11:38:11 AM »
Well, people seem to love the Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 and I have always felt that Canon could use such a lens in its lineup (esp since so much of its sales come from crop cameras), so it is quite plausible that they have been playing with one.

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Re: Could a 35mm f/1.2 L be in testing? (pic)
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2012, 12:12:38 PM »
Typo, typo, typo.

I think so, too - at ~50mm it's easiest to design fast lenses, but if the focal length gets smaller it'll be quite a hassle to release a f1.2 35mm that's sharp wide open as a L lens should be. Much more likely they'll just add weather sealing to a 35/1.4L, reduce the vignetting and double the price.

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Re: Could a 35mm f/1.2 L be in testing? (pic)
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2012, 12:18:57 PM »
Typo, typo, typo.

I think so, too - at ~50mm it's easiest to design fast lenses, but if the focal length gets smaller it'll be quite a hassle to release a f1.2 35mm that's sharp wide open as a L lens should be. Much more likely they'll just add weather sealing to a 35/1.4L, reduce the vignetting and double the price.

If they'd made a 35mm L II at F1.2 that isnt garbage but usable. Expect A Wicked price tag, and a Very Hefty lens.

I'd buy that for a dollar.  ;D

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Re: Could a 35mm f/1.2 L be in testing? (pic)
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2012, 09:07:04 AM »
Typo, typo, typo.

I think so, too - at ~50mm it's easiest to design fast lenses, but if the focal length gets smaller it'll be quite a hassle to release a f1.2 35mm that's sharp wide open as a L lens should be. Much more likely they'll just add weather sealing to a 35/1.4L, reduce the vignetting and double the price.

I always heare that, yet no 50 lens comes even kind of close to the 35 or 85 IQ.....

The current 35 L compared to the current 50 L, I can see way better colors and contrast from the 50, but sharpness is way better on the 35 at all distances, the AF is faster on the 35 and in some cases more accurate.

But given a updated 35 or even if it was made the same year, the 35 would most certainly be better at pretty much everything. And the 50 L is okay sharp wide open, at the perfect distance, but the 35 kills it when both at 1,4.

And the 85 with it's old design is waay better than the 50 in every aspect except size weight and AF, although the 85 is extremely accurate.
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Re: Could a 35mm f/1.2 L be in testing? (pic)
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2012, 10:22:17 AM »
And the 85 with it's old design is waay better than the 50 in every aspect except size weight and AF

*Except* size, weight and AF :-) ? You could add price to the list, leaving "only" iq in favor of the 85L - but all others are all important factors, too for various applications. If you ignore size, weight, price and af you could also buy the Hubble Space Telescope (well, after it was fixed)!

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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2012, 10:22:17 AM »

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Re: Could a 35mm f/1.2 L be in testing? (pic)
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2012, 11:13:05 AM »
Typo, typo, typo.

I think so, too - at ~50mm it's easiest to design fast lenses, but if the focal length gets smaller it'll be quite a hassle to release a f1.2 35mm that's sharp wide open as a L lens should be. Much more likely they'll just add weather sealing to a 35/1.4L, reduce the vignetting and double the price.

If they'd made a 35mm L II at F1.2 that isnt garbage but usable. Expect A Wicked price tag, and a Very Hefty lens.

I'd buy that for a dollar.  ;D

My thoughts exactly. All of their newer fast glass is going upwards in price dramatically. They caught wind of Nikon's pricing and decided to match Nikon on price with bodies AND glass. Nikon was always more expensive for their glass. Or was it their bodies? I don't know, but they are beating Canon like Drago was beating Rocky in the early rounds. "C'mon Rock (Canon), get up you son-of-a-b!tch because Mickey loves you"
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Re: Could a 35mm f/1.2 L be in testing? (pic)
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2012, 02:09:18 PM »
All of their newer fast glass is going upwards in price dramatically.

But on the other hand, the sharpness of these new lenses will be usable with newer high-mp Canon sensors, so it's an investment in future usability. But of course Canon wouldn't say that right now, or a part of their sales of their 22mp sensor bodies would stall.

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Re: Could a 35mm f/1.2 L be in testing? (pic)
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2012, 03:19:03 PM »
Your point was about wide open sharpness of a 35 f1,2... that's why i mentioned sharpness .. and that the 50 was easy made good, which isn't true.

And while the 85 is å heavy lens, it's still a lens and it is only 130 grams over a 24-70....
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Re: Could a 35mm f/1.2 L be in testing? (pic)
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2012, 06:01:57 PM »
Your point was about wide open sharpness of a 35 f1,2... that's why i mentioned sharpness .. and that the 50 was easy made good, which isn't true. And while the 85 is å heavy lens, it's still a lens and it is only 130 grams over a 24-70....

I didn't want to bash the 85L, great lens of course, just noticed. But from what I know ~50mm is the focal length that is easiest to design *relatively* to longer or shorter ones - do you say otherwise, I'm happy to stand corrected?  Btw: ever looked at the 50/1.8? You could put the parts of this design as an addition to the monthly Micky Mouse magazine and glue it together yourself.

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Re: Could a 35mm f/1.2 L be in testing? (pic)
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2012, 06:22:00 PM »
I wish they would sell lens parts separately, so only price would interfere with ones ideas.. like, all lens elements could be combined as you wish. I can think of a few lenses i would like to build...

A 14 TS f 1.4 for example...
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Re: Could a 35mm f/1.2 L be in testing? (pic)
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2012, 12:12:33 AM »
I wish they would sell lens parts separately, so only price would interfere with ones ideas.. like, all lens elements could be combined as you wish. I can think of a few lenses i would like to build...

A 14 TS f 1.4 for example...

Get a reprap and source the lenses strait from EO. There are also quite a few threaded modifying lenses like macro and fisheye.

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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2012, 12:12:33 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2012, 12:31:29 AM »
I wish they would sell lens parts separately, so only price would interfere with ones ideas.. like, all lens elements could be combined as you wish. I can think of a few lenses i would like to build...

A 14 TS f 1.4 for example...

:o

Awesome Idea!

i'd be making a 35-85 f1.4L zoom with hybrid IS
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2012, 09:47:04 AM »
Amusing thing is, it would probably actually be easier to build your own camera from available parts then your own lens...

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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2012, 09:47:04 AM »