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Re: 5D3 mov footage, convert to something for FCPX?
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2012, 02:55:26 PM »
Thank you to all for the input!!

Last night before bed, I just tried to do a direct import...and it came through!!

I didn't know about, till these posts today...what the checkmark for 'optimize' would do....and last night, even on a maxed out new macbook pro (ok, new as of Xmas 2011), my system would occasionally bog down during some tasks while rendering.

I did throw together something quick and dirty...and WOW...does it look good!??!!?

Again, thank you for the help and advice...looks like FCPX, the latest version at least....will allow you to handle direct import from 5D3!!!

Man..this is fun stuff!

Thank you,

cayenne

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Re: 5D3 mov footage, convert to something for FCPX?
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2012, 02:55:26 PM »

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Re: 5D3 mov footage, convert to something for FCPX?
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2012, 10:35:40 AM »
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The fact that FCP7 uses a max of 2.5GB of RAM just kills me, I would have been thrilled if FCPX had just been a 64-bit version of FCP7, but FCPX has grown on me. 

I just can't use it, we ingest from tape a lot, we still use conventional ENG cams (digibeta and DVCAM) so we need something sony 9 pin friendly (FCP7 + blackmagic) for timecoded capture and printing.

I am using Premiere5.5 in my i7 at home and am reaping the render time dividends.  It has FCP7 keyboard shortcuts and a conventional track based layout with IO insert overlay editing.   I actually used the old old premiere 6 years ago before I moved to FCP2 (FCP2 not FCS2!) so it's not too much of a leap in language to go back.  And it plays nice with omfie export (which I occassionally need)

I dearly wish apple had made fcp8 with a 64bit back end.  I can't believe that they cannot, and I can't believe that they didn't!   Give some folk lemons and they make lemonade.  I am going to try something else, probably premiere when my main MacPro suite dies, and my nect mac will probably be a PC.  Sad days, but fork them.

The RAM issue is one big bug bear, but most folk cram in 16gb of ram and are still using a single conventional hard drive.   It's one thing writing render files at lightening speed, it's another having fast enough RAIDs to handle it and get the full benefit.

I did a software internal RAID in bays 3&4 of my macpro tower and the data rate jumped from around 60MB/s to 220MB/s (to be fair that was using the latest barracudas) and If I were to install adapted SSD's I could probably top 450MB/s. 

Unfortunately my imac is fairly restricted at home, the thing to do it seems is to sacrifice the internal optical drive and use the E-Sata connection for an external SSD.   Seems like using a slegehammer to crack a nut, so despite my 8GB of RAM I'm still saving between two fw400 drives.   The system drive benchmarks at 120MB/s, but I don't want to start running the OS off of external drives. 

Anyway, back to cameras...
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Re: 5D3 mov footage, convert to something for FCPX?
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2012, 01:27:00 PM »
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The fact that FCP7 uses a max of 2.5GB of RAM just kills me, I would have been thrilled if FCPX had just been a 64-bit version of FCP7, but FCPX has grown on me. 


I just can't use it, we ingest from tape a lot, we still use conventional ENG cams (digibeta and DVCAM) so we need something sony 9 pin friendly (FCP7 + blackmagic) for timecoded capture and printing.
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Just reading this....sounds maybe more like a hardware problem that software problem....

Looking on this page: http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/all-features/, it appears FCPX supports tape based imports....maybe just needing to hook in a video card or firewire adapter?  9 pin sounds like it is likely a simple serial connector...and there are serial to usb connectors out there by the dozen.

Just something you might look into.

Yes, they did change the workspace with FCPX pretty drastically over the older style....but that's just something that takes a little getting used to...things change interfaces all the time. I work in the computer industry...maybe I'm just used to it happening quite a lot, but it shouldn't always be a deal breaker.

Things change in life.

Anyway, just found that this might be something you would like to look into.

The new mac pros should be out it looks like, by EOY.

I'm actually looking to build maybe a Hackintosh http://nofilmschool.com/build-a-hackintosh/...and really make a mean rendering monster out of it...for much less $$ than a real one from Apple.

Anyway..hope that helps...something to look into if you are interested in staying with the Apple products.

cayenne

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Re: 5D3 mov footage, convert to something for FCPX?
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2012, 04:29:32 PM »
Mac pro tower dates from jan 08, so gfx card would need replaced, would need to install new os etc and work just won't spend the cash, as the machine is still doing the job.  You can run fcp7 and fcpx side by side and use fcp7 for tape duties, but hardly elegant.  Killer is omfies and departure from tracks for me.

Sony 9 pin looks like an old vga connector, but carries tape deck commands and timecode.
FCPX as i understand it doesn't really do timecodes.  Firewire just isn't up to the job for digibeta capture (10bit, the J30 deck allows firewire but at increased temporal compression, negating the benefit of shooting and outputting digibeta, need SDI capture, which can be done with blackmagic utility, but no fluid way back to tape)

I need them for accurate insert editing to tapes for broadcast customers, and occasions when a producer turns up with a rucksack of digi's and a paper edit.

My next suite will be a premiere.  And on windows.  It'll do everything FCP7 did, at the speed of FCPX and let me use tape.  Apple decided to screw me over, i'll not be rushing out ti support them in the future.
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Re: 5D3 mov footage, convert to something for FCPX?
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2012, 04:29:32 PM »