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Re: Post Your 5D Mark III Sports shots (cropped or uncropped) here
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2012, 10:29:04 AM »
Interest comment earlier about replacing the 7D with the 5DIII for sports.

Anyone else got thoughts on that? Apart from the 2fps are there other disadvantages? Or should I keep saving for the 1DX?


Interesting comments indeed. I am thinking of renting the 5D MKIII and find out myself. But from what I see here, it could be a serious option for 7D replacement. That is....until......
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Re: Post Your 5D Mark III Sports shots (cropped or uncropped) here
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2012, 10:29:04 AM »

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« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2012, 11:24:40 AM »
i like this shot i took at a rodeo event last week...5d3 w/ 70-200 2.8ii
Look closer, it's not a robin.

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Re: Post Your 5D Mark III Sports shots (cropped or uncropped) here
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2012, 11:52:56 AM »
I use both (as backup to my 1dIV) for indoor sports, and to me the FF DOF & better high ISO performance of the 5D3 overcomes the loss of reach and 'extra' 1+ fps the 7d offers. I shoot with grips on both.  For indoor, low light sports, I choose the 5d3 now for my action shots, and am experimenting with setting up the 7d for videos.  If shooting outdoors in good light and needed more reach, I would have a tougher decision, but since I am mostly indoors, I grab the 5d3 more often.
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Re: Post Your 5D Mark III Sports shots (cropped or uncropped) here
« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2012, 02:13:11 PM »
Interest comment earlier about replacing the 7D with the 5DIII for sports.

Anyone else got thoughts on that? Apart from the 2fps are there other disadvantages? Or should I keep saving for the 1DX?


Interesting comments indeed. I am thinking of renting the 5D MKIII and find out myself. But from what I see here, it could be a serious option for 7D replacement. That is....until......

I used to have a 7D and switched to 5D3. I think 5D3 is fantastic at high ISO. The IQ is much better than 7D, focusing is much better too - I used to get some OOF shots with 7D but none with 5D3.
The key issue I am seeing is the 1.6X. I changed all my old lenses that were not compatible and I am now realizing my choice is very limited. Pretty much all Sigma/Tamron/Tokina lenses are for 1.6 crop sensors. I have obviously lost that extra bit of zoom as well which was very handy for sports shots. I am actually thinking of getting the 7D2 if/when it comes out due to this. So my suggestion would be to not do a switch but keep the 7D and if possible get 5D3 on top.

On a side note I have been using the in-camera HDR and its awesome. Its quality might not match what I can get done on my PC but I rarely took the pain(take multiple shots, take them to PC, do the ops...) of going through that process. Now I frequently get HDR shots when I need it. Following is a HDR shot - sorry didnt mean to divert the awesome post.


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Re: Post Your 5D Mark III Sports shots (cropped or uncropped) here
« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2012, 03:02:01 PM »
So my suggestion would be to not do a switch but keep the 7D and if possible get 5D3 on top.


Sounds good  ;)

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Re: Post Your 5D Mark III Sports shots (cropped or uncropped) here
« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2012, 04:51:00 PM »
So my suggestion would be to not do a switch but keep the 7D and if possible get 5D3 on top.


Sounds good  ;)
That is my plan when I get the funds together. I will then replace my 5D MkII and keep the 7D for when I need more reach or more rarely, a faster frame rate.
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Re: Post Your 5D Mark III Sports shots (cropped or uncropped) here
« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2012, 07:41:32 PM »
i like this shot i took at a rodeo event last week...5d3 w/ 70-200 2.8ii

What F stop did you use for this pic?
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« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2012, 10:14:29 PM »
Interest comment earlier about replacing the 7D with the 5DIII for sports.

Anyone else got thoughts on that? Apart from the 2fps are there other disadvantages? Or should I keep saving for the 1DX?

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Re: Post Your 5D Mark III Sports shots (cropped or uncropped) here
« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2012, 11:45:03 PM »
i like this shot i took at a rodeo event last week...5d3 w/ 70-200 2.8ii

What F stop did you use for this pic?

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Look closer, it's not a robin.

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Re: Post Your 5D Mark III Sports shots (cropped or uncropped) here
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2012, 02:14:06 AM »
Interest comment earlier about replacing the 7D with the 5DIII for sports.

Anyone else got thoughts on that? Apart from the 2fps are there other disadvantages? Or should I keep saving for the 1DX?

Price of a 300mm f/2.8 lens:  $7,250.00 
(needed with a full-frame camera, just to get you back to what you used to see --in a 2.8 aperature-- with a 70-200 f/2.8 on your old 1.6x crop camera)

I already all the lens - however it is low light performance that is key here - the 7D is starting to get noisy at iso 1600. The 5DIII's reported ability to be clean at iso6400 gives 2 stops. So at the same f2.8 instead of shooting at 1/250 you would be shooting at 1/1000 which is very significant

That could very well be the difference between motion blur and sharp

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Re: Post Your 5D Mark III Sports shots (cropped or uncropped) here
« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2012, 04:39:36 AM »
Interest comment earlier about replacing the 7D with the 5DIII for sports.

Anyone else got thoughts on that? Apart from the 2fps are there other disadvantages? Or should I keep saving for the 1DX?

Price of a 300mm f/2.8 lens:  $7,250.00 
(needed with a full-frame camera, just to get you back to what you used to see --in a 2.8 aperature-- with a 70-200 f/2.8 on your old 1.6x crop camera)

I already all the lens - however it is low light performance that is key here - the 7D is starting to get noisy at iso 1600. The 5DIII's reported ability to be clean at iso6400 gives 2 stops. So at the same f2.8 instead of shooting at 1/250 you would be shooting at 1/1000 which is very significant

That could very well be the difference between motion blur and sharp
In addition, the 7D tends to be very unforgiving of motion blur, the high pixel density tends to make it more obvious, so you need faster shutterspeeds to stop the action (unless you downsize). The usual rule of 1/focal length as a minimum doesn't really hold true.
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Re: Post Your 5D Mark III Sports shots (cropped or uncropped) here
« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2012, 05:34:57 AM »
In addition, the 7D tends to be very unforgiving of motion blur, the high pixel density tends to make it more obvious, so you need faster shutterspeeds to stop the action (unless you downsize). The usual rule of 1/focal length as a minimum doesn't really hold true.

1/35mm equiv works very well though

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Re: Post Your 5D Mark III Sports shots (cropped or uncropped) here
« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2012, 11:45:05 AM »
A few on last week's fun trip to Ontario:

Niagara nightscapes @ 13 sec exposures.
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Re: Post Your 5D Mark III Sports shots (cropped or uncropped) here
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Re: Post Your 5D Mark III Sports shots (cropped or uncropped) here
« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2012, 12:57:11 PM »
Interest comment earlier about replacing the 7D with the 5DIII for sports.

Anyone else got thoughts on that? Apart from the 2fps are there other disadvantages? Or should I keep saving for the 1DX?

Price of a 300mm f/2.8 lens:  $7,250.00 
(needed with a full-frame camera, just to get you back to what you used to see --in a 2.8 aperature-- with a 70-200 f/2.8 on your old 1.6x crop camera)



Yes, and if you consider the size of the footbal field (reach from one end to the other end) then you may end op too short with 300mm on a 5D MK III - even if you crop. The 400mm is the minimum reach for this field. And it costs 10.999 euros. Ouch!
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Re: Post Your 5D Mark III Sports shots (cropped or uncropped) here
« Reply #44 on: June 24, 2012, 02:52:01 PM »
I'd like to say don't worry about the .6 loss (that was my initial fear) especially with a 400mm being 640mm on the 7D.  You can crop to your hearts content and get that same exact photo as you would with the 7d only the image from the 5D MK3 won't break down.  I should at some point demonstrate this as I may be one of the few with both cameras though not sure.

Hmm not my experience between the 5D2 (and 5D3 should be similar, other than maybe at the much higher ISOs) and 7D. The 7D definitely pulls in more reach (granted sometimes in action you have jussst a hint of tracking or motion blur etc and maybe you don't resolve to the 7D photosite, but whenever you do....).

That said, very tentatively since I haven't gotten a lot of proper opportunities with either, I think the 5D3 focuses better for soccer than the 7D. The 7D appears to act weirdly for soccer under certain lighting and heat wave conditions to the point that in one game late last summer I gave up and switched to my 5D2 for the rest of the game. OTOH my 7D focused really well for surfing at the Quiksilver Pro New York and one day there was horrible back lighting.

Maybe some of it is to do with the 7D seeming to have really large focus zone if you use a point with expansion and maybe it's too grabby for soccer and yet one point is not ideal either or, like many canon cams that came out for a few years, it simply gets a little weird under certain types of lighting (often seeming to do worse the more blazing sun there was).

Sometimes the 5D2 is too slow to keep up and forget the outer points, but for center only, when it can keep up I can swear even the old 5D2 is a bit more trustable than the 7D.

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Re: Post Your 5D Mark III Sports shots (cropped or uncropped) here
« Reply #44 on: June 24, 2012, 02:52:01 PM »