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Re: FIRST Video comparison Canon 5D mkIII VS 1D X
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2012, 05:41:09 PM »
I have analyzed the full res file.... the 1dx is also much sharper! mayby is true 1080P  ;D

It is possible that the focus was not spot on during the test shot with the 5D3. What would you define as true 1080p resolution? 1920x1080 or 1920x1080? LOL get it?...  ;)

What would I class as 1080? 1920x1080 in all 3 colours. Not just 1080 bayer filter lines.

So you don't consider the Alexa and F3 to be 1080p cameras?

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Re: FIRST Video comparison Canon 5D mkIII VS 1D X
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2012, 05:41:09 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2012, 09:30:06 PM »
Yes, the 1DX is better than the 5D3…but..why are we surprised?
It's got everything in it better…
But we mustn't forget, it's also double the price! Surely it had to be better than the 5d3..

Because it has 18MP rather than a 3x3 1920x1080 22MP sensor and Canon said the 5D3 would rule video for this round. The D4 video is way worse than the D800 video. The 1D4 video was worse than 5D2 video.

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Re: FIRST Video comparison Canon 5D mkIII VS 1D X
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2012, 09:58:29 PM »
Quote from: LetTheRightLensIn


Because it has 18MP rather than a 3x3 1920x1080 22MP sensor and Canon said the 5D3 would rule video for this round. The D4 video is way worse than the D800 video. The 1D4 video was worse than 5D2 video.

Hehe, when Canon said the 5D3 would rule video, the 1DX wasn't out yet right? :)
So Canon's marketing now will make sure the 1DX will rule EVERYTHING and make you want to buy it if you want the best of the best in everything hehe…
Given the processing power and the more time they had to tweak the 1DX with all the delays and after seeing the competition in the market for so long, i think Canon has time to make the 1DX better than everyone else in what it was made to do…so i wouldn't be surprised at all if the 1DX is indeed better at video than the 5D3. It is after all the flagship model...

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Re: FIRST Video comparison Canon 5D mkIII VS 1D X
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2012, 11:09:10 PM »
well i see that the video colors of 5d3 are more vivid ...
red r redder n blues r bluer
also the hairs of the girl r also a bit vivid
n the difference to an unskilled eye like mine ...
is hair line ... very minute
with 1DX being more realistic ...

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Re: FIRST Video comparison Canon 5D mkIII VS 1D X
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2012, 12:42:15 AM »
The 22 MP enabled 3x3 pixel binning as the downscaling algorithm. The fact the 1DX has 18MP and can't do that may be much to its benefit.

Pixel binning is just one step less idiotic a way to downscale than the line skipping the 5d2 did. But it is still so lame, and so unnecessary in 2012, that if any photo viewing app on a computer or even cell phone did it that way you would wretch at the quality of your photos when they were displayed at anything smaller than 100%.

The 1DX, to beat the quality of the video resolution on the 5D3, would use a superior downscaling algorithm. While I'm nearly certain the Digic5 could downscale video in realtime just fine on the 5D3, and Canon has intentionally dumbed it down to pixel binning in order to protect the C300, the 1DX has two Digic5's and Canon might have figured they could get away with claiming two were needed for better downscaling.

The better downscaling is taking away the residual stair-stepping (i.e. aliasing) on the venetian blinds that the 5D3 shows. However, the resolution is ultimately not that great...it may be say 850 lines rather than 800 that the 5D3 gets. To get over 1000 lines, you have to pay them over $15,000 for a "C" cine camera. But that is by corporate dictat and not by technical necessity.

The only bright side to this is the video on the whole DSLR line can be intercut with each other OK. The cameras over $3000 will have progressively less moire and aliasing, but won't have much more real resolution. The C series will be an entirely different level, and going across that divide (e.g. using a C300 A-cam and 5D3 B-cam) will require nimble work in post.

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Re: FIRST Video comparison Canon 5D mkIII VS 1D X
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2012, 08:17:30 AM »
The 1DX must be in stock here in Singapore..
i was at a photoshoot today and for the first time, there were more 1DX cameras than 5D3!
In fact i was the only 5D3 user in the shoot, there were 3 other 1DX, and 1 guy even had 2….
I was shocked…i thought the 1DX was so rare but to see so many in 1 day? Maybe there IS alot of stocks in Singapore..

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Re: FIRST Video comparison Canon 5D mkIII VS 1D X
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2012, 05:57:13 AM »
I have analyzed the full res file.... the 1dx is also much sharper! mayby is true 1080P  ;D


It is possible that the focus was not spot on during the test shot with the 5D3. What would you define as true 1080p resolution? 1920x1080 or 1920x1080? LOL get it?...  ;)


What would I class as 1080? 1920x1080 in all 3 colours. Not just 1080 bayer filter lines.


So you don't consider the Alexa and F3 to be 1080p cameras?


Maybe you should have a look at the BBC test for HD use for the f3 (http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp-pdf-files/WHP034-ADD68_Sony_PMW-F3.pdf) and couldn't quickly find the BBC testing sheet for the arri alex.

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Re: FIRST Video comparison Canon 5D mkIII VS 1D X
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2012, 05:57:13 AM »