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« on: June 25, 2012, 07:53:34 AM »

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Now that the EF 24-70 f/2.8L has been redone, the most requested lens to be replaced with a new version is the Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS.  A few patents exist for a new 100-400, you can see them here and here.


The lens isn’t for an immediate announcement, as we’re told they may be waiting for Nikon to announce the much needed replacement to their 80-400.


We’re told 2 designs currently exist for the lens, and at least one of them has a zoom ring instead of the polarizing “push/pull”. The lens is also said to be weather sealed, slightly faster starting at f/4, a bit heavier than the current version and has the latest and greatest IS system.


This lens could also be considered the IS replacement for the EF 400 f/5.6L, especially if it’s better optically. I’m sure this point may not be what a lot of people wanted to read.


No mention of a timeframe for an announcement. I suspect it’ll be after the 200-400.


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Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS [CR2]
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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS [CR2]
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2012, 08:03:15 AM »
This is one lens I'll definitely pre-order, if it becomes a reality...  I really like my current 100-400mm, the push-pull is fine (and the new lens definitely need to be an extending zoom of some sort to preserve the relatively compact size), but weather sealing, better IS, and a bit more sharpness would be very welcome!
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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS [CR2]
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2012, 08:30:57 AM »
To help keep my spending in check I only buy a new lens or gadget just after a new version has been released. What I've gotten so far is 580exII, 16-35II, 70-200II and 600RT's. The 100-400 II is definitely on my list.

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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2012, 09:19:47 AM »

My future gear:
Body: 5D III + 7D II or 70D crop
Lenses: 50L + 14-24L + 24-70L II + 70-200L 2.8 IS II + 100-400L II
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Prime: 40mm -- 85L II -- 135L -- 200L f2 IS -- 400L f2.8 IS II

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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2012, 09:47:36 AM »
the current version cost around 1300 euro.. so can we expect the new one will cost 2600 euro?

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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2012, 10:02:30 AM »
That would be great ! I only hope it won't cost more than 2000 € :-\

Do you think it could be the new lens that replace the 400 f/5.6 and also the 300 f/4 >:(

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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2012, 10:02:50 AM »
It's a popular lens, maybe lower ... $2200? They might surprise and keep the price below $2k due to the popularity, as $2k is seen as a barrier point.

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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2012, 10:05:20 AM »
the current version cost around 1300 euro.. so can we expect the new one will cost 2600 euro?
   

yeah, cost is the big question for me.  The last rumor here mentioned a $3k price tag (yikes). 

after just taking the plunge on a used one of the current model 2 days ago (haven't even received shipment yet), my stomach lurched a bit at seeing the title of this post... but frankly, if the new version is priced anywhere in the $3k neighborhood I doubt mk1 used prices will be affected much
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2012, 10:31:46 AM »
This lens needed a replacement far worse than the 24-70 or 70-200.

I used mine on Friday and the IS system just flat stinks compared to even the old version of the 70-200.  I lost about 90% of the shots I would have gotten with my 70-200 at the same focal lengths and shutter speeds.

I don't mind the push-pull, but the handling of the current 100-400 is the pits.  The most comfortable place to put your hand is on the locking ring and focus ring meaning your constantly messing up focus while zooming.  The focus ring should be on the very end like it is on the 70-200, and the locking ring shouldn't move the focus ring.

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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2012, 10:46:01 AM »
This could be my poor-man's nature/wildlife lens.
The 70-200 2.8 II with 2x converter is ok, but a little slow focus and soft at 5.6. Better at f8.

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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2012, 10:47:02 AM »
This lens needed a replacement far worse than the 24-70 or 70-200.

I used mine on Friday and the IS system just flat stinks compared to even the old version of the 70-200.  I lost about 90% of the shots I would have gotten with my 70-200 at the same focal lengths and shutter speeds.

I don't mind the push-pull, but the handling of the current 100-400 is the pits.  The most comfortable place to put your hand is on the locking ring and focus ring meaning your constantly messing up focus while zooming.  The focus ring should be on the very end like it is on the 70-200, and the locking ring shouldn't move the focus ring.
That is not my experience now. Before AFMA though, I was very unhappy with my shots using the 100-400. However, I shot 400 odd pictures on Saturday most of a hawk while doing AFMA. I shot about 200 after I was happy with the AFMA and all were hand shot with my 100-400 on the 5D3. All those came out sharp. I put up a few images yesterday that you can check. The link is http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=7576.msg138751#msg138751.

I hold the lens under the tripod mount as I feel that is the most balanced location for me.


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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2012, 10:54:33 AM »
This lens needed a replacement far worse than the 24-70 or 70-200.

I used mine on Friday and the IS system just flat stinks compared to even the old version of the 70-200.  I lost about 90% of the shots I would have gotten with my 70-200 at the same focal lengths and shutter speeds.

I don't mind the push-pull, but the handling of the current 100-400 is the pits.  The most comfortable place to put your hand is on the locking ring and focus ring meaning your constantly messing up focus while zooming.  The focus ring should be on the very end like it is on the 70-200, and the locking ring shouldn't move the focus ring.
That is not my experience now. Before AFMA though, I was very unhappy with my shots using the 100-400. However, I shot 400 odd pictures on Saturday most of a hawk while doing AFMA. I shot about 200 after I was happy with the AFMA and all were hand shot with my 100-400 on the 5D3. All those came out sharp. I put up a few images yesterday that you can check. The link is http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=7576.msg138751#msg138751.

I hold the lens under the tripod mount as I feel that is the most balanced location for me.

This had nothing to do with AF, it had to do with IS being pretty darned worthless on this lens, at least compared to more modern lenses.

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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2012, 11:06:56 AM »
This had nothing to do with AF, it had to do with IS being pretty darned worthless on this lens, at least compared to more modern lenses.
Hmmm... Again not my experience. My daughter who is 5'3 hand shot the moon a couple of times on my 300D at 400mm and 1/60th. And the shots were sharp. Sorry you are not happy with yours.

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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2012, 11:18:10 AM »
This had nothing to do with AF, it had to do with IS being pretty darned worthless on this lens, at least compared to more modern lenses.
Hmmm... Again not my experience. My daughter who is 5'3 hand shot the moon a couple of times on my 300D at 400mm and 1/60th. And the shots were sharp. Sorry you are not happy with yours.

I got about 50% at 1/60th and 300mm.  I get 90+% at 1/30th and 300mm on my 70-200 (with TCs).

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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2012, 11:20:25 AM »
the current version cost around 1300 euro.. so can we expect the new one will cost 2600 euro?

Or, if the algorithm is not 2X but +1000 it will be around 2300 euro which is no good either  >:(

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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2012, 11:20:25 AM »