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Re: PHOTTIX Strato II Wireless 5 in 1 Trigger Set for Canon
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2012, 08:14:07 PM »
http://www.phottix.com/en/phottix-odin-ttl-flash-trigger-for-canon.html

the phottix site isnt very clear about what will work and what wont
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Re: PHOTTIX Strato II Wireless 5 in 1 Trigger Set for Canon
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2012, 08:14:07 PM »

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Re: PHOTTIX Strato II Wireless 5 in 1 Trigger Set for Canon
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2012, 07:29:10 PM »
I just invested in a set of Stratos II triggers and couldn't be happier.  To clarify the original poster's question, the Stratos series does "TTL pass through" instead of transmitting TTL signal.  That means when you put the transmitter on your camera and a flash on top of that (either directly mounted or with an OC-3 cord), the mounted flash works just as if the Stratos weren't there, so all TTL functions work correctly.  The remote flashes however, only get the flash trigger and no TTL info.  The Phottix Odin series does transmit the eTTL signle I think, but I never really desired to have my off camera flashes in auto mode, so I didn't go that route.

This is exactly what I was looking for when shooting events with on-camera and remote flashes.  For a wedding reception I shot a few weeks ago, I set up 2 remote 580exII's on stands in the corners of the room and manually dialed them down to 1/16 or 1/8 power and used a 600ex-rt on-camera in normal eTTL mode.  This configuration worked flawlessly and I couldn't have been happier with the results.  The push-button setup on the transmitter to activate groups superbly designed.  I can turn on/off the remote flashes individually at the push of a button for each.  The Stratos II series wakes up the remote flashes as well, so you don't have to worry about sleep issues.

I also own 4 PW FlexTT5's.  After over $1,000 of investments with abmissal reliability over the past few years, I finally decided to throw in the towel.  These do not currently work with the 5D3 and I assume the 1DX, but haven't bothered to try.  The Stratos II work perfectly with the 5D3 and 600ex-RT combo.  The FlexTT5's are known to have issues with RF noise from the 580exII, but after paying $75/ea to get my 580's modified to eliminate that problem, I still didn't get good results.  I will say the FlexTT5's have worked perfectly when used as manual triggers with studio strobes (except on the 5D3 -- that's also a buggy combo).  PW states they are working on a firmware upgrade for their products to make the 5D3 work and I've heard other people use the Flex series with flashes other than the 580exII without issues.  Right now however, you'll have to wait for PW's firmware upgrades for 5D3 or 1DX compatibility and I still wouldn't put much faith in reliability if you're using 580exII's.

I've used regular Pocket Wizards for years and some of them were ancient.  The regular ones are simply the most reliable trigger probably ever made, so I don't want to completely dismiss PW.  If you just want a basic trigger, the new PW Plus III is a great investment at a very good price.  My experience with the Flex series left me very disenchanted, though, so looked elsewhere for a solution that let me use eTTL.  I also didn't want to have to hang something off my camera for a trigger, so hot-shoe mounting (with the option to attach an on-camera flash) was my preferred design.
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Re: PHOTTIX Strato II Wireless 5 in 1 Trigger Set for Canon
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2012, 08:03:00 PM »
For those wanting radio E-TTL II using non-RT flash units, these are due to be released any time now:

https://thephotogadget.com/en/content/yongnuo-announces-yn-622-wireless-ttl-flash-trigger

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Re: PHOTTIX Strato II Wireless 5 in 1 Trigger Set for Canon
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2012, 08:55:29 PM »
For those wanting radio E-TTL II using non-RT flash units, these are due to be released any time now:

https://thephotogadget.com/en/content/yongnuo-announces-yn-622-wireless-ttl-flash-trigger

What do you mean by non-RT flash units? I'm confused...Oh, you're referring to the new 600RT speedlite, gotcha. If these are priced right, and work well, then they'd be a nice alternative to the Odins/PocketWizards that do ETTL. Would require somewhat more expensive speedlites than the basic trigger system like the Strato's need.
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Re: PHOTTIX Strato II Wireless 5 in 1 Trigger Set for Canon
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2012, 02:51:04 AM »
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Yea, but then you don't have RF TTL for that 2nd flash. But if you're setting that to manual anyway, then $200 saved is definitely nice.

Just curious on this notation..I am unclear here - would TTL even be useful when applied to a (non subject) fill light or back light use for a 2nd flash?  You'd get an unrelated reading of the muslin, umbrella, softbox etc..does anyone use TTL for non subject lighting?
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Re: PHOTTIX Strato II Wireless 5 in 1 Trigger Set for Canon
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2012, 04:34:51 AM »
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Yea, but then you don't have RF TTL for that 2nd flash. But if you're setting that to manual anyway, then $200 saved is definitely nice.

Just curious on this notation..I am unclear here - would TTL even be useful when applied to a (non subject) fill light or back light use for a 2nd flash?  You'd get an unrelated reading of the muslin, umbrella, softbox etc..does anyone use TTL for non subject lighting?
You are correct it is best to set the background lights manual and let the subject lights use ttl but to get nice even background light its a good idea to use 2 well that's how I do it anyway.
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Re: PHOTTIX Strato II Wireless 5 in 1 Trigger Set for Canon
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2012, 05:49:06 PM »
It all depends on how you use your remote speedlights.  I've personally never used remote TTL and just set my background and accent lights manually.  If you are camp that likes TTL controlled remotes, there are certainly ways to put that to good use.  The most obvious is doing ratio lighting where you have a main and a fill light that you can set to do 1/2 or 1/3 ratios for brighter light on the mains.  Being able to transmit TTL data also means you can transmit control data that is used for other things besides TTL.  That means you can control remote speedlights with your master flash or directly from the back of the camera if you have any of the new Canon SLRs.  I think on the newer cameras you can even do manual control of the remote flashes.
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Re: PHOTTIX Strato II Wireless 5 in 1 Trigger Set for Canon
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2012, 05:49:06 PM »