The 7D for half price

[bdunbar79]

If you want a good camera for $1400, get a used 1Ds Mark II.  It's IQ is way better than the 7D.

[Mt Spokane Photography]

If you want a good camera for $1400, get a used 1Ds Mark II.  It's IQ is way better than the 7D.

Wow, the price has really dropped.  Its a very good deal at that price, you do have to have a 32bit  XP computer with a firewire card and cable for some of the settings.  That can be a pain if you have a 64 bit PC.

[bdunbar79]

If you want a good camera for $1400, get a used 1Ds Mark II.  It's IQ is way better than the 7D.

Wow, the price has really dropped.  Its a very good deal at that price, you do have to have a 32bit  XP computer with a firewire card and cable for some of the settings.  That can be a pain if you have a 64 bit PC.

Oh really?  I didn't know all that.

[babarasghar]

I Have a friend who is a Technician for Canon who let me in on a little secret when i was thinking of buying the 7D as my full time Forensic Camera,He told me that if i want all of the good features of the 7D with the traditional focusing system meaning it will do "dark" and it will AF on fast moving targets, he had me interested and then when he told me that with my discounts and such i could have one for less than half the price of the 7D i was hooked and i said when does it hit the market, to which he smiled and said it's already here , the Rebel T3i is a 7D in disguise he said almost all the boards and such in the T3i are the same board numbers that the 7D calls for for typical problems and if you look the specs up on the 2 cameras they are almost identical, also the 60D is a Rebel T2i. I hope this info helps someone save money.

The price of your camera does not make you a pro the camera is a tool its whats in your mind that makes that tool a Pro !!

they have just one similarity ...
they r made by canon
btw ... amazing post ... even canon didnt know about it thats y now they r releasing 7d2 ...

[briansquibb]

If you want a good camera for $1400, get a used 1Ds Mark II.  It's IQ is way better than the 7D.

Wow, the price has really dropped.  Its a very good deal at that price, you do have to have a 32bit  XP computer with a firewire card and cable for some of the settings.  That can be a pain if you have a 64 bit PC.

Oh really?  I didn't know all that.

XP? I was on Win 7 when I bought the 5DII in Oct 2009 and I have never had firewire. I dont even remember a firewire socket? Just a mini USB and an HDMI IIRC

So what are we talking about here? What have I missed?

[aznable]

1ds mk ii has a FireWire port and a very slow usb 1.1

[Mt Spokane Photography]

1ds mk ii has a FireWire port and a very slow usb 1.1

And, Canon no longer provides firewire drivers for it.  You can find older drivers, and if you have firewire on a 32 bit XP machine, then you can access some settings that are only available that way.
 
USB 1.1 is not a problem, use a card reader. 

[bdunbar79]

I guess I'm confused.  Can you guys list or do you know the settings that CANNOT be accessed on a 64-bit system?  Thanks!

[briansquibb]

1ds mk ii has a FireWire port and a very slow usb 1.1

And, Canon no longer provides firewire drivers for it.  You can find older drivers, and if you have firewire on a 32 bit XP machine, then you can access some settings that are only available that way.
 
USB 1.1 is not a problem, use a card reader.

I had Win7 when I got the 1DS2 - so have always used a card reader. Never had a PC with firewire either

[bdunbar79]

1ds mk ii has a FireWire port and a very slow usb 1.1

And, Canon no longer provides firewire drivers for it.  You can find older drivers, and if you have firewire on a 32 bit XP machine, then you can access some settings that are only available that way.
 
USB 1.1 is not a problem, use a card reader.

I had Win7 when I got the 1DS2 - so have always used a card reader. Never had a PC with firewire either

I use a card reader as well, and my computer has a built-in reader, so I see no reason NOT to have a 1Ds II if you need it

[Marsu42]

I use a card reader as well, and my computer has a built-in reader, so I see no reason NOT to have a 1Ds II if you need it

With my 60d, I always put the sd card into the built-in slot in my laptop - much faster than usb2, and it doesn't wear down the camera mini-usb port by constantly plugging and unplugging a cable.

[Axilrod]

What in the hell are you smoking? May I have some?

I think he meant they were the same on a basic level, their main differences are in the body/build quality and burst rate. And the T2i/T3i dont have 1/3 stop ISO increments, but the differences in IQ are negligible.  For stills the differences are bigger, but if someone is just shooting video you'd be hard pressed to tell the differences between the T3i/60D/7D.

[paul13walnut5]

For stills the differences are bigger, but if someone is just shooting video you'd be hard pressed to tell the differences between the T3i/60D/7D.

I disagree on the video side of things.  The flip out screens of the T3i & 60D, the manual audio levels of the T3i & 60D and the Magic Lantern compatability make the 7D the weakest choice for video.

Intermediate ISO and live hdmi output aren't enough of a benefit, IF you are buying purely on a video basis.

Depending on your stills interests then the arguements for the 7D may well be more compelling.  I say this as an owner of both the 7D and the T3i, and a serious video user.

[crasher8]

Who is buying the 7D for video?

[Marsu42]

Who is buying the 7D for video?

Nobody I hope - it has the same sensor as the 60d/600d, no swivel screen and doesn't run magic lantern (the hdr video feature alone...). And it doesn't have live view video af like the 650d, quick af with the 7d doesn't make up for that. Furthermore, for some more $$$ you're getting the 5d2 (magic lantern again) and much higher iso capability...