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How much $$$ will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012 (w/o special deals, grey imports, rebates etc...)?

$3600, price will go up
1 (0.9%)
$3500, just like on release
44 (40%)
$3400
6 (5.5%)
$3300
13 (11.8%)
$3200
17 (15.5%)
$3100
2 (1.8%)
$3000
12 (10.9%)
$2900
5 (4.5%)
$2800, like the d800 list price
7 (6.4%)
$2700 or even less
3 (2.7%)

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Voting closed: August 02, 2012, 04:30:44 AM

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How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« on: July 02, 2012, 04:30:44 AM »
With many people thinking about getting a 5d3 now, wait for a lower price or get a 5d2 instead if the high price of the new model persists, I thought I'd do a quick survey.

Opinions on how likely price drops are seem to be very split, so here's your chance to voice your opinion and revisit the thread at the end of 2012 for a good laugh (like "how much better will the 650d sensor be?")...

Please don't write "But I've seen it as low as xyz sold on ebay by a hk dealer", this poll is about the tendency, so specify standard u.s. shop retail prices.

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How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« on: July 02, 2012, 04:30:44 AM »

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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2012, 10:53:33 AM »
I said $3,500, as I think that will remain the list price. But, I do expect Canon to offer a rebate of $150-$200 for the holidays. Maybe double the rebate if you buy a lens. So, street price could be a little lower.
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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2012, 12:09:53 PM »
I said $3,500, as I think that will remain the list price. But, I do expect Canon to offer a rebate of $150-$200 for the holidays. Maybe double the rebate if you buy a lens. So, street price could be a little lower.
Yeah, I have the same feeling, which is why I put $3300. It will still have the technical retail price of $3499, but, you'll see it on Amazon/B+H/etc at $3300ish during the holiday sales.

Definitely don't see it doing a major drop to anything like $3000

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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2012, 12:14:48 PM »
It really depends on sales volume, more than anything.  For example, I infer that initial sales of the new 600EX-RT were not as strong as expected, and that's why it was added to the current rebate program (unusual for a newly-released product).
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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2012, 02:23:58 PM »
For example, I infer that initial sales of the new 600EX-RT were not as strong as expected, and that's why it was added to the current rebate program (unusual for a newly-released product).

Unfortunately the 600rt wasn't added to the european cash-back program, even though all other flashes have a rebate :-(  ... maybe eu customers are more keen on bleeding edge tech? Anyway, I would think that the 600rt sales are good because the used 580ex2 price has dropped so much, and imho this means people are upgrading.

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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2012, 03:34:30 PM »
For example, I infer that initial sales of the new 600EX-RT were not as strong as expected, and that's why it was added to the current rebate program (unusual for a newly-released product).

Unfortunately the 600rt wasn't added to the european cash-back program, even though all other flashes have a rebate :-(  ... maybe eu customers are more keen on bleeding edge tech? Anyway, I would think that the 600rt sales are good because the used 580ex2 price has dropped so much, and imho this means people are upgrading.

Honestly, I don't consider a $30 rebate a sign of anything.
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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2012, 03:51:29 PM »
For example, I infer that initial sales of the new 600EX-RT were not as strong as expected, and that's why it was added to the current rebate program (unusual for a newly-released product).

Unfortunately the 600rt wasn't added to the european cash-back program, even though all other flashes have a rebate :-(  ... maybe eu customers are more keen on bleeding edge tech? Anyway, I would think that the 600rt sales are good because the used 580ex2 price has dropped so much, and imho this means people are upgrading.

Honestly, I don't consider a $30 rebate a sign of anything.

I think you underestimate the "sale" effect on consumer mentality.  People buy stuff just because it's perceived as a good deal, regardless of whether or not it is.  Just check out eBay--people often buy stuff for more than MSRP just because it's on eBay they think it must be a good deal.  I have buddies at work that go to the same restaurant for lunch every Monday because they get double stamps on their frequent diner card, even though they end up spending more even with thier freebie than they would at other restaurants.

Canon knows this, so I absolutely would take it as a sign that they are not moving as many as they would like.

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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2012, 04:05:47 PM »
Honestly, I don't consider a $30 rebate a sign of anything.

Ugh, I thought the rebate was higher considering the price - you're correct, might not mean much, only that now all flashes have a minor incentive to buy them now (the 580ex2 wasn't in the first list because it was phased out).

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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2012, 05:27:47 PM »
It really depends on sales volume, more than anything.  For example, I infer that initial sales of the new 600EX-RT were not as strong as expected, and that's why it was added to the current rebate program (unusual for a newly-released product).

Very true, but it might also depend on what Nikon's offer is with regard to the (very strongly) rumoured D600.  The trouble for Canon with a camera like the D600 would be creating a rival that could match its price point, whilst looking like a better camera than the 5D MkII and not as good as the 5D MkIII.  Canon might be forced to do some asymmetric competition by lowering the price of the 5D MkIII to perhaps half way between the D600 and D800; this would be analogous to the situation that used to exist between Canon's pre-60D XXD line and the Nikon D70-90/D100-300. 

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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2012, 05:59:01 PM »
I think $3000 for the holidays of 2012.  The d800 has been sold out and/or back ordered for over 3 months now while the 5d3 has always been available to buy with little to no wait, and THAT speaks volumes about the higher demand for the d800 vs the 5d3.  This supply demand curve will force canon to lower the price to $3k...IMO. 
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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2012, 06:09:22 PM »
I think $3000 for the holidays of 2012.  The d800 has been sold out and/or back ordered for over 3 months now while the 5d3 has always been available to buy with little to no wait, and THAT speaks volumes about the higher demand for the d800 vs the 5d3.  This supply demand curve will force canon to lower the price to $3k...IMO.

"This supply demand curve"--I see your point on demand, but missed where you mentioned what the supply was...   ???

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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2012, 06:14:04 PM »
I think $3000 for the holidays of 2012.  The d800 has been sold out and/or back ordered for over 3 months now while the 5d3 has always been available to buy with little to no wait, and THAT speaks volumes about the higher demand for the d800 vs the 5d3.  This supply demand curve will force canon to lower the price to $3k...IMO.

"This supply demand curve"--I see your point on demand, but missed where you mentioned what the supply was...   ???

You're correct pancake...I'm just guessing that they have similar manufacturing capabilities...just a guess and a prediction.
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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2012, 06:45:08 PM »
I think $3000 for the holidays of 2012.  The d800 has been sold out and/or back ordered for over 3 months now while the 5d3 has always been available to buy with little to no wait, and THAT speaks volumes about the higher demand for the d800 vs the 5d3.  This supply demand curve will force canon to lower the price to $3k...IMO.

"This supply demand curve"--I see your point on demand, but missed where you mentioned what the supply was...   ???

You're correct pancake...I'm just guessing that they have similar manufacturing capabilities...just a guess and a prediction.

With nikons battery issues, AF issues, etc...  Also canon had 2 dedicated factories just pumping out this camera...  Nikon... dont know...  wasn't ever published.  Also read somewhere that places like amazon UK got sick of nikons delays and problems they cancelled all pre-orders...  So it's really hard to tell. 
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2012, 07:12:26 PM »
The new 5D3 is now available for 2,999 euros from a reliable online retailer (I've purchased L lenses from this eBay outlet e.g. got my new 24-70mm f/2.8L for €1,039 at the start of the year) - see link below:

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/g-CANON-EOS-5D-Mark-III-MIII-M-III-GARANTIE-EUROPA-4-YAHRE-NEU-/180918676722?pt=DE_Foto_Camcorder_Digitalkameras&hash=item2a1f97ecf2#ht_5553wt_1372

That's a 500 euro or 630 dollar (US$) drop in just a couple of months from launch (includes a 4-Year Warranty).

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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2012, 07:44:43 PM »
I think $3000 for the holidays of 2012.  The d800 has been sold out and/or back ordered for over 3 months now while the 5d3 has always been available to buy with little to no wait, and THAT speaks volumes about the higher demand for the d800 vs the 5d3.  This supply demand curve will force canon to lower the price to $3k...IMO.

Nikon's supply always sucked compared to Canon. Even without a hot new product they struggled with supply on their upper tier models.

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