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How much $$$ will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012 (w/o special deals, grey imports, rebates etc...)?

$3600, price will go up
1 (0.9%)
$3500, just like on release
44 (40%)
$3400
6 (5.5%)
$3300
13 (11.8%)
$3200
17 (15.5%)
$3100
2 (1.8%)
$3000
12 (10.9%)
$2900
5 (4.5%)
$2800, like the d800 list price
7 (6.4%)
$2700 or even less
3 (2.7%)

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Voting closed: August 02, 2012, 04:30:44 AM

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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2012, 08:05:16 PM »
The only thing about waiting is that I feel that Canon is hard at work to bridge the gap with Nikon (Read DR etc). All the current models will get quicker updates than normal, including the 1Dx which i suspect is still using old sensor tech. Canon cannot afford the hemorrhage of photographers who will switch to Nikon and and all those new ones who are buying Nikon for the first time and not Canon. Canons Sensor tech is their Achilles heel and they have to fix and implement this fast. However in the mean time the 5d3, 1Dx and rebel will sell as fast as they could make them, although it may not last into next year. I wouldnt touch anything Canon with an APSC sensor though, for pro work. Although the 60D with ML looks good for video at current discounts.

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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2012, 08:05:16 PM »

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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2012, 10:15:35 PM »
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This supply demand curve will force canon to lower the price to $3k...IMO. 

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Canon cannot afford the hemorrhage of photographers who will switch to Nikon and and all those new ones who are buying Nikon for the first time and not Canon.

What are you people smoking?

I just checked the Amazon best sellers list. As of 9 p.m. tonight the D800 was #8 and the 5DIII was #9. Those are incredible sales figures for both cameras. Especially, when you consider that they are bookended (at #7 and #10) by cameras that are under $600.

Both of these cameras are well on their way to becoming massive success stories for their respective companies. If you are going to make up sh*t, at least make it believable.
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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2012, 10:28:44 PM »

I just checked the Amazon best sellers list. As of 9 p.m. tonight the D800 was #8 and the 5DIII was #9. Those are incredible sales figures for both cameras. Especially, when you consider that they are bookended (at #7 and #10) by cameras that are under $600.


The Canon 5d MK III comes as a body only, and as a kit with lens, and a lot of both of these are sold.  The D800 is only offered as a body only.
 
Add the additional sales of the 5D MK III kit to those of the body only, and they are likely much higher on the list.

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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2012, 10:30:50 PM »
The price has a lot of folks looking at refurb mk2's.

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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2012, 03:56:59 AM »
The only thing about waiting is that I feel that Canon is hard at work to bridge the gap with Nikon (Read DR etc). All the current models will get quicker updates than normal, including the 1Dx which i suspect is still using old sensor tech. Canon cannot afford the hemorrhage of photographers who will switch to Nikon and and all those new ones who are buying Nikon for the first time and not Canon. Canons Sensor tech is their Achilles heel and they have to fix and implement this fast. However in the mean time the 5d3, 1Dx and rebel will sell as fast as they could make them, although it may not last into next year. I wouldnt touch anything Canon with an APSC sensor though, for pro work. Although the 60D with ML looks good for video at current discounts.

If Canon were that concerned to "bridge the gap" between Nikon/Sony sensor technology and their own, they would have done so in this current generation (I can't speak for the 1D X yet).  The dynamic range issue (i.e. the low read noise of the latest Sony Exmor sensors) has been apparent since the 16MP APS-C sensor, which was first offered in the D7000 (and Sony A580) back in Autumn (Fall) 2010 (the D800 has what is basically a full-frame version of this sensor).  Are you seriously suggesting that it has taken Canon over a year to notice that this sensor has lower read noise than their own?

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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2012, 04:36:28 AM »
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If you are going to make up sh*t, at least make it believable.

You know what i believe, i believe if you walk into ANY camera shop in the US you will consistently find the d800 out of stock, and more often than not a 5d3 in stock....I'm not making up the fact that I can buy and have a 5d3 in my hands within one day if I want one, if I want a d800, then I better say a prayer....I believe that both companies have similar manufacturing capabilities so I'm guessing that the supply side is similar.....and as I said earlier, only nikon and canon know the supply side, but the demand side seems to favor Nikon.....so - $3000 by year end for my guess.



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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2012, 06:08:27 AM »
Nikon's manufacturing facilities are small compared to Canon's.

Worldwide, Canon's far outsell Nikon, always have and probably always will.

Sure, the D800 is a wanted camera, it's just that Nikon doesn't have the facilities or the money to make more of them.

Anyway, I'm VERY happy with my 5D3 and wouldn't change it for a D800, even if the D800 was half the price and was sitting on the shelf.
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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2012, 06:08:27 AM »

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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2012, 01:00:48 PM »
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If you are going to make up sh*t, at least make it believable.

You know what i believe, i believe if you walk into ANY camera shop in the US you will consistently find the d800 out of stock, and more often than not a 5d3 in stock....I'm not making up the fact that I can buy and have a 5d3 in my hands within one day if I want one, if I want a d800, then I better say a prayer....I believe that both companies have similar manufacturing capabilities so I'm guessing that the supply side is similar.....and as I said earlier, only nikon and canon know the supply side, but the demand side seems to favor Nikon.....so - $3000 by year end for my guess.

Your logic is overwhelming.  Did you consider the fact that there are more 5D Mark III's out there than D800's?  Additionally, do you know Canon and Nikon production volume capabilities?  You're making this conclusion because you see store shelves?  Wow.  Look at the overall market.  Canon dominates Nikon in overall market.  Maybe you are right, not in these particular two cameras, but your viewpoint is quite narrow and probably inaccurate.
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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2012, 05:50:43 PM »
How about how much will the 5D3 be from Authorized Canon Retailers at the end of the year?

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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2012, 05:57:28 PM »
How about how much will the 5D3 be from Authorized Canon Retailers at the end of the year?

Well lets see, you can buy it now from an authorized dealer for $3218. So end of the year, around $3000 I'd guess.

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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2012, 08:57:41 AM »
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.You know what i believe, i believe if you walk into ANY camera shop in the US you will consistently find the d800 out of stock, and more often than not a 5d3 in stock....I'm not making up the fact that I can buy and have a 5d3 in my hands within one day if I want one, if I want a d800, then I better say a prayer....I believe that both companies have similar manufacturing capabilities so I'm guessing that the supply side is similar.....and as I said earlier, only nikon and canon know the supply side, but the demand side seems to favor Nikon.....so - $3000 by year end for my guess

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.Your logic is overwhelming.  Did you consider the fact that there are more 5D Mark III's out there than D800's?  Additionally, do you know Canon and Nikon production volume capabilities?  You're making this conclusion because you see store shelves?  Wow.  Look at the overall market.  Canon dominates Nikon in overall market.  Maybe you are right, not in these particular two cameras, but your viewpoint is quite narrow and probably inaccurate.
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1. Logic??  I'm just speculating on the future price of a 5d3 based on limited info.
2. How do you know "there are more 5d3's out there than d800's"?  Are there actual "units sold" numbers posted somewhere?  Nikon states production target of 30k d800s/ month...canon doesn't provide that info.
3. Canon does not dominate Nikon in higher end dslr market...they did, but not anymore.
4. "I see store shelves"...and I talk to store sales guys who say the interest in the d800 is higher than the 5d3.

Bottom line, both companies recently announced the sale of their 70 millionth lens, AND, the time it took each company to go from 65 million to 70 million was similar.  So, IMO, this is a good indication that market share, resources, production capabilities, unit volumes..etc are pretty comparable between the two when discussing dslr's. 





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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2012, 09:58:34 AM »
Now the interesting question is - how much it'll be end of 2013... or 2014... :P

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« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2012, 10:05:14 AM »
Sheedoe, thanks for those links.  I'm now more optimistic that I may purchase a Mark III by the end of the year.
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Re: How much will the 5d3 cost at the end of 2012?
« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2012, 11:07:05 AM »
Sheedoe, thanks for those links.  I'm now more optimistic that I may purchase a Mark III by the end of the year.

Also noticed a $4400 5d mark iii deal on adorama (from ken rockwell site) that includes the 24-105 AND 50 1.4 along with a canon backpack and 32gb extreme pro sd card.

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