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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2012, 03:33:57 AM »
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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2012, 03:33:57 AM »

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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2012, 12:06:28 PM »
myone....fine shots..with good control over the exposure as well.  I noted my 5D MK3 is performing the same as yours is doing as an example with your first photo. (I thought it was mine only originally as I didn't see this issue two years prior with the 7D).  Do you see how the how the fall off of the fireworks has that "saw blade" look to it?  I caught this immediately so I post processed in DPP with these settings..see if they help you:
contrast -4
highlight -2
shadow +3
color saturation +1
Unsharp - all at zero
I'm sure there are other apps where that would soften the photo even further

My photo had a smoother effect (not eliminated though).  I am sure I could have played around with it more but was pleased with the outcome.  I also saved the recipe to apply to others.  I hope this helps you.
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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2012, 05:30:14 PM »
Cleaned this one up a bit in LR 4


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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2012, 09:15:09 PM »
Most of these are pretty nice shots, although I really prefer there to be some foreground in the shot, as pictures of fireworks with no context really aren't that exciting IMHO.   I often find that the foreground is what makes the shot for me and in addition exposing the foreground and the fireworks is where the challenge really lies.  Just a few thoughts.

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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2012, 03:20:57 AM »
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Most of these are pretty nice shots, although I really prefer there to be some foreground in the shot, as pictures of fireworks with no context really aren't that exciting IMHO.   I often find that the foreground is what makes the shot for me and in addition exposing the foreground and the fireworks is where the challenge really lies.  Just a few thoughts.

Interesting thought though these fireworks (mine at least) were put on by the city were so grandiose I'm not sure how one would be able to get objects in a foreground.  That might be a challenge in order to get the entire height and capitalize on this complete display you'd have to be several hundred feet back or have a fisheye, TSE lens 17mm.  Perhaps something like a lit pool in the foreground?  though that might steal the true subject matter.  Would be interested in seeing a better example if you know of where one exists..thanks.
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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2012, 03:58:55 AM »
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Most of these are pretty nice shots, although I really prefer there to be some foreground in the shot, as pictures of fireworks with no context really aren't that exciting IMHO.   I often find that the foreground is what makes the shot for me and in addition exposing the foreground and the fireworks is where the challenge really lies.  Just a few thoughts.

Interesting thought though these fireworks (mine at least) were put on by the city were so grandiose I'm not sure how one would be able to get objects in a foreground.  That might be a challenge in order to get the entire height and capitalize on this complete display you'd have to be several hundred feet back or have a fisheye, TSE lens 17mm.  Perhaps something like a lit pool in the foreground?  though that might steal the true subject matter.  Would be interested in seeing a better example if you know of where one exists..thanks.

Get farther back or shoot at a wider angle, just as you suggested.  The picture I posted was shot at 14mm, otherwise it would have missed the foreground.

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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2012, 04:59:37 AM »
Revup: Yes I noticed that too. I have been trying to get it smooth but not much luck. I even turned down sharpening all the way to "0", and tried your settings, still getting jagged lines.

Is that my settings that is causing the jagged lines? What might be causing this?


myone....fine shots..with good control over the exposure as well.  I noted my 5D MK3 is performing the same as yours is doing as an example with your first photo. (I thought it was mine only originally as I didn't see this issue two years prior with the 7D).  Do you see how the how the fall off of the fireworks has that "saw blade" look to it?  I caught this immediately so I post processed in DPP with these settings..see if they help you:
contrast -4
highlight -2
shadow +3
color saturation +1
Unsharp - all at zero
I'm sure there are other apps where that would soften the photo even further

My photo had a smoother effect (not eliminated though).  I am sure I could have played around with it more but was pleased with the outcome.  I also saved the recipe to apply to others.  I hope this helps you.
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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2012, 04:59:37 AM »

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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2012, 02:52:59 PM »
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Revup: Yes I noticed that too. I have been trying to get it smooth but not much luck. I even turned down sharpening all the way to "0", and tried your settings, still getting jagged lines.  Is that my settings that is causing the jagged lines? What might be causing this?

Still investigating on this end, initially I thought it was the settings..as of right now, I'm not a 100% positive on this phenomenon.  Though not all of my photos have this effect from 7/4 only a hand full and they have been deleted though of the ones I kept, a few still have a slight saw blade look.  I did look at the original RAW files and zoomed on screen to 100% to make sure it wasn't the monitor and the problem lessens a bit.  Try that on your end, see if at 100% view in the affected areas if the issue is diminished or not.

Update:  just downloaded your photo and opened the JPG at 100%.  The issue diminishes greatly.  This tells me the dimensions of your upload are too high.  Try resizing your image to a 800 width, upload here, then we can see if that works.  I did mine at 1920x1280 then posted the Medium BBCode off flickr into the thread above and they seem OK
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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2012, 09:42:05 PM »
Here's another - just getting around to post processing the remainder of the batch.  Settings were F10, ISO 100, 11 seconds, 83mm, BULB, tripod (Y), TR cable. Adobe Light Room 4 post processed (JPG from RAW)


Lake Mission Viejo, CA 4th of July by Revup67, on Flickr
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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2012, 10:34:16 PM »
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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2012, 11:59:36 PM »
Would but don't have a 5D3 .... :)

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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2012, 04:52:53 AM »
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Get farther back or shoot at a wider angle, just as you suggested.  The picture I posted was shot at 14mm, otherwise it would have missed the foreground.

@!ex..thanks..yes I am aware of the wide angle (have a 8-15 and 16-35) as an option however I chose the 70-300 for good reason.  About 6 inches behind me was a pool.  My camera was clearing a 5.5 foot high wrought iron fence via a tripod.  Between the fence and the pool is about 10 inches of concrete.  This is the 10" walk path around the pool barricaded by the fence so wide angle was not an option.   if I shot from the other side of the pool the ugly 3 foot wall with 2.5 foot high fence would have been in every scene. I was at a neighbors BBQ and hauled my gear over there.  I was fortunate to get these as my neighbor climbed the fence about 30 minutes prior to cut away at some of the City's oleander brush at my request which was raging at about 5 feet high as well obscuring the view.  I believe I've got a good eye (so I've been told) just sometimes the surroundings prohibit the exploitation of the photographer.  These were certainly very tight quarters!

Rev, Fair enough, but I would argue that to get truly original/interesting shots a photographer should utilize his surroundings to have the shot tell a story.  I mean just look at the various shots of fire works in this gallery so far.  Most of them could be interchangeable with the others, because they don't have much of an individual story to tell.  I'll use an example; Clouds are very interesting, and can make beautiful subjects for pictures (just like fireworks), but I find it much more compelling if the clouds are a part of a story.  I could drive out a bit east (I live in colorado and clouds here are really spectacular, especially out on the plains to the east) and capture a lot of tightly cropped cloud pictures that would be real nice examples of weather photography.  In my experience (both from selling commercial, and fine art photography as well as just examining photography and art with a critical eye) I find that simple pictures of clouds won't appeal to the general public.  What people want is a story, a context for the cloud. It gives it a reason and context to be menacing, or lovely, or whatever it is, and in doing so, it gives it interest.  I know you must have a very good eye, but I would surmise that a shot of the pool you were near or even the people you were around might have really added some human interest and context to your shots.  I often think pictures of everyday life add much more to the interest to a shot than the cookie cutter grander of fireworks (or any interchangeable subject matter) shot could ever hope to without.

Along the lines of a parallel between clouds and fireworks that I've already created, I'll give you a concrete example.  Here is a picture I took on the roof of my Mom's building.  I could have easily just taken a picture of the dark storm clouds rolling in, but instead I took a picture of the context, and in doing so this picture has a story which gives it more power.

Just a few thoughts....





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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2012, 06:48:00 PM »
My first picture post on CR:  5D3 + Tamron 70-300 SP with IS off.  I started out with mirror lockup, bulb mode, and trigger, but the two stages of mirror up, then shutter release was too complicated for me.  I ended up just using bulb mode and trigger.  I would vary my ISO depending on the rough amount of time I wanted to open my shutter.  Used hand as a quick cover for the long exposures where I wanted to overlay multiple fireworks, but these images didn't turn out so good.  :)  If I were able to do it over again, I would have shot a bit wider to allow for better cropping and better composition (the city was in the background).







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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2012, 04:37:05 PM »
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Re: Post Your 4th of July Photos
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