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The Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II will be delivered to retailers...

before September 2012, Canon wanted to be on the safe side
2 (4.4%)
in September 2012, Canon won't disappoint
10 (22.2%)
in October 2012 to really hit the shelves
11 (24.4%)
before end of 2012, there might be some last minute issues
6 (13.3%)
in September just as announced, but 2013
2 (4.4%)
option "F", as in who the F___ knows :-p
14 (31.1%)

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Voting closed: August 05, 2012, 04:19:49 PM

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POLL: When will the 24-70 mk2 really be delivered?
« on: July 06, 2012, 04:19:49 PM »
To everybody's big surprise, Canon didn't manage to deliver a product on time - the latest schedule specifies mid September 2012 for "final adjustments in production" - whatever that means.

Here's your chance to predict when it will be really delivered, so you can later say "I told you so!" :-)
« Last Edit: July 06, 2012, 06:27:36 PM by Marsu42 »

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Re: POLL: When will the 24-70 mk2 really be delivered?
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2012, 09:34:18 PM »
You offer choices A through E. I choose F, as in who the F___ knows.  It's time to give up guessing when announced 'products' will actually be available.  Put your head in the sand and that way you can be surprised when someone taps you on the shoulder and says, "Here's the new lens from Canon I just bought at the store."

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Re: POLL: When will the 24-70 mk2 really be delivered?
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2012, 03:30:57 AM »
You offer choices A through E. I choose F, as in who the F___ knows.

Option added :-)

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Re: POLL: When will the 24-70 mk2 really be delivered?
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2012, 11:45:31 AM »
it seems the currently trend with missed release dates is to extend them twice, which would put us at the sept. release date.
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Re: POLL: When will the 24-70 mk2 really be delivered?
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2012, 12:32:12 PM »
Yeah, and as was mentioned in other threads, they've already missed the key window for a lot of their target audience for this lens. Wedding photogs wanted this a month ago, not in late Fall. So Canon might actually see a lot of people holding off on buying it, just because they can wait and see reviews and decide if its worth it.

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Re: POLL: When will the 24-70 mk2 really be delivered?
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2012, 03:58:23 PM »
I hope my 50mm 1.4 will still be alive until mrk II arrives - b/c it has been working hard lately  ;D
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Re: POLL: When will the 24-70 mk2 really be delivered?
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2012, 07:46:52 AM »
Yeah, and as was mentioned in other threads, they've already missed the key window for a lot of their target audience for this lens.

Rumor has it that the last minute production changes concern the addition of IS to include a wider target audience!

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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2012, 07:46:52 AM »

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Re: POLL: When will the 24-70 mk2 really be delivered?
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2012, 09:54:30 AM »
Yeah, and as was mentioned in other threads, they've already missed the key window for a lot of their target audience for this lens.

Rumor has it that the last minute production changes concern the addition of IS to include a wider target audience!

Yes, and the price just increased to 3k.

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Re: POLL: When will the 24-70 mk2 really be delivered?
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2012, 11:18:09 AM »
I don't want to defend Canon...but..instead of complaining..all I can say is that I have no Idea how difficult it must be to produce such a technically perfect product. It must be incredibly difficult. I just have to be patient. If this lens is going to be in the class of the 70-200mm f/2.8 IS II...(which is what I am hoping for).....I can be patient....I totally disagree with the comment up above that this delay will cause "Canon to miss it's target audience" ???....WHAT?....Am I going to run out and buy the Tamron???.....I don't think so. This audience isn't going anywhere.
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Re: POLL: When will the 24-70 mk2 really be delivered?
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2012, 11:38:41 AM »
I've just bought the new  tamron 2.8 VC  after having sold my 24-70 mark I.
For half the price the canon mark II I got the "very rare recommanded lens" label by Photozone for my 7D
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I'll buy the next canon 24-70 IS when it will be ready. No doubt we'd see an IS release in 2013. I'd sell my tamron lens at this time.

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Re: POLL: When will the 24-70 mk2 really be delivered?
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2012, 11:53:36 AM »
If this lens is going to be in the class of the 70-200mm f/2.8 IS II

It won't be, it has no IS :-p ... and Canon sure wishes they'd have more forgiving customers like you! As far as I read it, nobody is complaining about them taking to long to produce the mk2 after the mk1 release, but about postponing the release date multiple times - this hasn't got anything to do with difficult or not, but rather with professional management and engineering.

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Re: POLL: When will the 24-70 mk2 really be delivered?
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2012, 12:46:13 PM »
You offer choices A through E. I choose F, as in who the F___ knows.  It's time to give up guessing when announced 'products' will actually be available.  Put your head in the sand and that way you can be surprised when someone taps you on the shoulder and says, "Here's the new lens from Canon I just bought at the store."

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Re: POLL: When will the 24-70 mk2 really be delivered?
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2012, 12:50:01 PM »
If this lens is going to be in the class of the 70-200mm f/2.8 IS II

It won't be, it has no IS :-p ... and Canon sure wishes they'd have more forgiving customers like you! As far as I read it, nobody is complaining about them taking to long to produce the mk2 after the mk1 release, but about postponing the release date multiple times - this hasn't got anything to do with difficult or not, but rather with professional management and engineering.

LOL...About the IS part!....and your statement is true enough...THREE ( and who knows Infared there will be even MORE postponements?), delivery dates is a more than a little unprofessional. You are right.
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Re: POLL: When will the 24-70 mk2 really be delivered?
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Re: POLL: When will the 24-70 mk2 really be delivered?
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2012, 01:04:41 PM »
there is a new 24-70mm f2.8 IS patent from canon.

i wonder what will it cost when the non IS version is that expensive.

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•Patent Publication No. 2012-123156 •2012.6.28 Release Date
 •2010.12.8 filing date
 
•Example 1 •Zoom ratio 2.46
 •68.99mm – f = 28.00 focal length
 •Fno. 2.88
 •17.41 deg – 37.69 half angle of view.
 •Image height 21.64mm
 •222.38mm – 192.25 full-length lens
 •BF 39.98 – 53.68
 •Effective diameter 74.47mm ball before
 •Effective diameter aperture 31.23mm
 •19 sheets 12 group lens configuration
 •Three three aspherical surface
 •2 UD glass sheet
 
•Example 2 •Zoom ratio 2.86
 •68.70 – f = 24.00 focal length
 •Fno. 2.88
 •17.48 deg – 42.03 half angle of view.
 •Image height 21.64mm
 •224.86mm – 191.93 full-length lens
 •BF 39.85 – 55.68mm
 •Effective diameter 77.29mm ball before
 •Effective diameter aperture 32.58mm
 •Lens Construction 12 group 21 sheets
 •Three three aspherical surface
 •2 UD glass sheet
 
•Five-group zoom positive and negative positive positive and negative
 •(For Focusing group 2) Inner Focus
 •(Part 1 of the fourth lens group, anti-vibration unit is L4a) image stabilization
 •Positive refractive power of the first lens group •The aberration can be corrected and weaken, the lens is larger
 •Difficult to correct aberration and strengthen
 
•The amount of movement of the second lens group and one, the first •Must be strengthened to reduce power and refraction, aberration correction is difficult
 •Diameter of the first lens group becomes larger and more


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Re: POLL: When will the 24-70 mk2 really be delivered?
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2012, 01:18:42 PM »
there is a new 24-70mm f2.8 IS patent from canon. i wonder what will it cost when the non IS version is that expensive.

There were previous rumors of Canon having IS prototypes, but they were said to be too heavy or have not the iq that was required from the update.

As for the final retail cost: it has little to do with the manufacturing cost, but it's as much as Canon can get away with. And for the 24-70ii non-IS, event/wedding pros and enthusiasts are willing to shell out lots of $$$.

With a new version with "amateurish" IS and maybe replacing the 24-105 as the kit lens, the price might be oriented more towards the general dslr crowd and thus not much higher or even lower if the iq is great, but not as stellar as the non-IS.

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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2012, 01:18:42 PM »