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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2012, 10:20:14 AM »
Not another "IS" vs "I don't need no freakin IS" war, puhlease.

I agree and this isn't the first time briansquibb and I have bumped heads over this matter, so I'll leave and going to get some shuteye.

But regarding the matter I think it's great that there are even rumors of Canon re-working the 50mm lineup, with IS or not.

Agreed. I'd like a lightweight AF 50mm that's sharp wide open!

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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2012, 10:20:14 AM »

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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2012, 11:09:55 AM »
Remember the vast majority of cameras Canon now sells are APS-C, so 50mm is the new 80mm and IS is definitely helpful under some situations at that focal length.
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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2012, 12:09:43 PM »
1.4 or faster, don't need IS....smaller + sharper wide open is a PLUS.

Can't wait... :o
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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2012, 12:17:57 PM »
"This is good news since none of the present lenses are worthy of my money.
-50 1.8 = a toy lens, too few aperture blades
-50 1.4 = more expensive toy lens, prone to breaking (also had one and didn't like it)
-50 1.2 = expensive and with problems like focus shift
-Sigma 50 1.4 = could be good if by some miracle one could find a decent specimen
If I'm not missing anything, these are the autofocusing lenses for Canon at the moment. So after that short listing I welcome new additions to the lineup (and IS of course, it's a life-saver for me).
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I have the Sigma..(and TRUST me..I am not a Sigma Corp. fan...I have all L glass and a Zeiss for my 5DMarkIII)...but based on the LAME Canon 50mm offering...I went for the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 (and yeah....all those other letters they had to attach to the name?).  I have to say...my Sigma lens is quite excellent ...I have never had a complaint using it unless it was photographer error (Me. LOL!).  And I agree with the other posts..an f/1.8 DOES NOT replace an f/1.4? DUH. Even if a Canon 50mm f/1.8 IS gets made, I am keeping my Sigma and skipping that one along with all of Canon's 50mm offerings.  Shameful situation...Canon.
...but hey whatever...Would not be surprised to see a lens like that coming down the pike for the new Canon Mirrorless (a camera I will never own...I will stick with my kick-ass MFT system for a micro system when I am not using a FF camera.  The WHOLE point of having a mirrorless camera is to make it SMALLER. Did you hear that Canon?).
Hold the mirrorless manufacturing line and send us a couple of 24-70mm f/2.8 II's.   That would suit my needs just fine!!! LOL!!!!
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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2012, 12:30:01 PM »
The reason this intrigues me is because it could show a major divergence for future lenses for Canon, which would be different than the Nikon path. Nikon has basically no primes with IS (only their 85 macro and >200mm lenses), and I think only one zoom with VR in the f/2.8 range. Their most recent lenses are f/1.8.

Canon on the other hand just released two lenses that are a whole stop slower than their predecessors but add IS. This too would be nearly a stop slower and add IS. The pancake 40mm doesn't have IS, but that seems to be a size thing. If Canon is gonna keep targeting the video market, that might show the path for their future lens updates, making them slower but adding IS. F/1.8 is plenty shallow for most video work, and the IS can be indispensable. But for photo-first people, it'd probably be frustrating to see IS in everything...especially if Nikon is taking the other path
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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2012, 12:33:41 PM »
I also got the Sigma a while ago for the exact reasons stated above: None of Canon's 50mm offerings was really compelling.

I have to say: Overall, the Sigma is a great lens but it too has downsides:
- It's big and heavy for a 50mm f/1.4 – therefore it's not a lens I take with me all the time
- You get to play the infamous Sigma autofocus lottery: Had to send in my copy twice until they got it right – it's okay now but still not as reliable as my Canon lenses in that regard

One of the strongest points of this lens is the way it renders bokeh - just looks fantastic.

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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2012, 12:41:54 PM »
- You get to play the infamous Sigma autofocus lottery: Had to send in my copy twice until they got it right – it's okay now but still not as reliable as my Canon lenses in that regard

Please remind me - what is that lottery about: front/backfocussing, unreliable or uprecise af? I'd like to know because if I'd get a 50mm, it'd be the Sigma.

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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2012, 12:48:36 PM »
I don't care what Canon comes up with.. 1.8 IS, new 1.4…
Whatever, as long as it is better than the current 1.4 version i'm happy…and hopefully not that expensive.
BUT i do hope it's not going to be STM…nothing beats USM..i'll gladly pay more for USM

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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2012, 12:58:04 PM »
.......but based on the LAME Canon 50mm offering...I went for the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 (and yeah....all those other letters they had to attach to the name?).  I have to say...my Sigma lens is quite excellent ...I have never had a complaint using it unless it was photographer error (Me. LOL!).  ...........................


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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2012, 01:02:10 PM »
- You get to play the infamous Sigma autofocus lottery: Had to send in my copy twice until they got it right – it's okay now but still not as reliable as my Canon lenses in that regard

Please remind me - what is that lottery about: front/backfocussing, unreliable or uprecise af? I'd like to know because if I'd get a 50mm, it'd be the Sigma.

Marsu...check this link about the Sigma 50mm....scroll to the bottom and read "Rogers Take". that about sums it up...but my lens seems to work just fine.  http://www.lensrentals.com/rent/canon/lenses/normal-range/sigma-50mm-f1.4-hsm-for-canon
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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2012, 01:07:46 PM »
Well, as f/2.8 is the NEW f/1.8, we should consider ourselves lucky to get a new f/1.157 and a price tag to rival the old f/1.2

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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2012, 01:09:18 PM »
Marsu...check this link about the Sigma 50mm....scroll to the bottom and read "Rogers Take". that about sums it up...but my lens seems to work just fine.

Thanks for the link - when did you buy the Sigma? Often these issues seem to be silently fixed by manufacturers, including Canon (like the not very durable on the first 17-55 lenses).

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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2012, 01:13:03 PM »
As long as they keep the price low, even $200 or so like the forty shorty, this could be good to have in the lineup. Don't get rid of the current 50 1.8! It's such a great price for people just getting started to get a fairly fast prime at a good focal length.
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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2012, 01:29:14 PM »
Please remind me - what is that lottery about: front/backfocussing, unreliable or uprecise af? I'd like to know because if I'd get a 50mm, it'd be the Sigma.
Mine had front/backfocus issues, which are now fixed.
I also have a 30mm which was spot on right from the start.

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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2012, 01:32:26 PM »
My take on the new crop of small Canon primes is that most of us wanted true Ring USM in the 24/28/35/50. What we're getting is stopped down apertures with IS and a HUGE price increase. Does it seem as though Canon is not listening or are the complainers not embracing the vision? Does the addition of IS outweigh the f stop? The blades are better in the newer versions so the bokeh is sweeter but do they seem suited mainly for video (IS/STM) and thus the complaints come from the stills crowd?

I'd like a new 50 as well. I'd like it 1.8 or faster, true ring USM and a bit more solidly built than the 1.4. I'm not asking for IS  so if that's what's driving these primes past 700 than I guess I'll keep waiting.

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Re: A New EF 50 f/1.8 IS? [CR1]
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2012, 01:32:26 PM »