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« on: March 30, 2011, 12:07:46 AM »

Delays?

Not hearing a lot of positive things about current products and new products because of the Japanese earthquake.


The latest info I’ve received says all of Canon, Nikon and Sony are still unsure what the near future is going to bring.


Canon may be in fact delaying new product announcements. I was told every executive within Canon is being told to “prepare for the worst”. Sales reps are being told not to say anything.


I do not personally know anything about the rolling blackouts and “dead zone” expansion in Japan around Canon manufacturing facilities.


I’ve received no word whether or not Canon is looking at moving some manufacturing to different countries.


Pricing Rising

As  a lot of you have probably noticed, camera equipment is getting more expensive and disappearing from shelves. There’s lots of out of stock items around various stores.


A lot of retailers are getting or close to getting MSRP for camera stuff. This is not going to change quickly.


All rebate programs that were planned have been cancelled for the most part. I’m still looking around to see if any are still a go.


Recent Rumblings

I’m not sure what to make of recent product announcement rumblings, whether things have leaked because plans have changed.


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The Bad News [CR2]
« on: March 30, 2011, 12:07:46 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2011, 12:32:13 AM »
 :'( I was afraid of this.  That was why I decided not to wait for the 5DIII and got the 5DII at it's usual price with lenses that still carried their rebate values.  I am glad I did ;D  But I am sad for Japan.  The news on the nuclear reactor isn't looking good and that has to have the country paralyzed to some extent.  At least the country's psyche. All of their resources are being diverted to recovery efforts, all of their nuc plants are being reviewed.  Manufacturing has to have taken a big hit and it may be some time before they will start rolling again.  I pray I am wrong, but I fear I am not.
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2011, 12:41:37 AM »
glad I got my 10-22mm last week. prices haven't risen over here in the Philippines yet.

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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2011, 01:28:33 AM »
Been waiting and waiting for the 5D3....got impatient and picked up a 5d2 at Best Buy for 2250. Looks like I may have made the right choice

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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2011, 01:58:15 AM »
I hope Canon is in fact delaying new product announcements, and should have done so when the lenses announced for January were late.

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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2011, 01:58:37 AM »
Unfortunately, this bad news is hardly surprising.
All the best to the people affected by the disaster!

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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2011, 02:20:58 AM »
Bless those Japan folks' yeah I decided to buy what I need from canon, lens, sigma as well 5d mkii, it's the facts, that was one really bad disaster after the other. Earthquake - tsunami - then that evil nuclear plant seriously .. The more folks wait hold to buy.... Well.. I don't recommend that right now.
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2011, 06:33:47 AM »
Untill rolling power cuts can be stopped, or planned for, releasing a new product line would just hamper manufacturing with a peak of orders when it could least sustain them.
With unknown nuclear radiation affected areas, whole area's might yet be delared off limits and factory populations might need to move.
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2011, 07:37:20 AM »
I don't find this suprising. In fact I think it's common sense to expect manufacturing delays and decreased stock levels, which in turn leads to price gouging, both on primary and secondary markets.

For this reason i'd rate this a CR3, if not a fact.

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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2011, 08:00:32 AM »
Good luck Japan. Stay strong  :-*

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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2011, 09:59:30 AM »
ugh... i dont have enough money yet to buy the mkii yet.. i only have 2,000 ]:

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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2011, 10:57:41 AM »
Does anyone know where the Canon manufacturing facilities are and, what each one does? I know Nikon is very close to that region (was from Sendai) if I remember correctly.
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2011, 11:38:35 AM »
Yup here you go. This is a list of all of Canon's Manufacturing Facilities in Japan. The 3 main plants where L-lenses and Pro bodies are built are Oita, Fukushima and Utsunomiya all of which are INOP.

http://www.canon.com/corp/list03.html

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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2011, 12:12:22 PM »
By INOP do you mean in operation?


On that page is says for Oita (relatively far from Fukushima):
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Digital cameras, digital video camcorders, EF lenses, compact photo printers and others

For Fukushima:
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Production of inkjet printers, print heads and ink tanks; analysis of software

Nagasaki also produces Digital Cameras (Nagasaki is pretty far away from Fukushima).

So is it relatively safe to conclude that the lens production and camera production are a safe distance away?

I hope Japan gets back from this, and comes out even better than before (as history has shown Japan done this). After my education finished and I learned Japanese I would like to move there.

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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2011, 01:02:56 PM »
By INOP do you mean in operation?


On that page is says for Oita (relatively far from Fukushima):
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Digital cameras, digital video camcorders, EF lenses, compact photo printers and others

For Fukushima:
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Production of inkjet printers, print heads and ink tanks; analysis of software

Nagasaki also produces Digital Cameras (Nagasaki is pretty far away from Fukushima).

So is it relatively safe to conclude that the lens production and camera production are a safe distance away?

I hope Japan gets back from this, and comes out even better than before (as history has shown Japan done this). After my education finished and I learned Japanese I would like to move there.




"L" lenses are made at Utsunomiya.  A new lens plant is starting up at Oita, but there have been production problems there that have delayed the startup.

Here is a report posted on DPR from a person who said he was briefed by Canon management last week. It does sound reasonable to me.
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Canon provided an update last week on operations. Here are the highlights as it pertains to cameras and lenses:

Canon has three plants and five affiliates located in the Kanto area and further north. The Utsunomiya plant suffered the most damage and this is where all the L and other lenses are made.

Utsunomiya is a major production site for interchangeable lenses and incurred some damage to plant buildings and equipment. Management has not finalized the schedule for restarting operations due to lack of reliable electricity supply and parts procurement issues.

Canon is reviewing the Oita and Taiwan plants as alternative output sites for interchangeable lenses. I believe Nikon announced a similar move to transfer production to Malaysia.

Oita Canon and Nagasaki Canon, key production sites for digital cameras, have suspended operations since last week because of difficulties procuring commodity electronic parts and other items following the earthquake. Management has not made a decision on the timing for resuming operations yet.

Canon has indicated a task force has been set up to determine which of its affected sites may not be operable within a month and to move that production to other Canon sites. This may not be possible for lenses however.

Both Canon and Nikon have been extremely careful about inventory levels in the aftermath of the financial crisis. This will further exacerbate the current problem as Canon only has 27 days of inventory on hand in the camera and lens segments.

I have been told that all North American retailers (and likely global) have been put on an allocation basis for bodies and lenses. Many retailers already look to be out of popular lenses and bodies. I have confirmed this with 2 retailers who have said they are on allocation and do not expect to have stock for 6-8 weeks (which could be optimistic).

We will see prices on the popular lenses and cameras increase (we have already) given that both Nikon and Canon are suffering production disruptions and inventory levels are very low across all channels.

If you have been waiting to purchase a lens now is the time to buy it otherwise you may have to wait months before it is restocked.

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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2011, 01:02:56 PM »