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Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2012, 08:56:09 AM »
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22mp (Same sensor as 5D3)

WTF?! 5D Mark II sensor continues to live on??

When will we see Canon put some new sensor technology in its non 1-series full frame DSLRs???

Correct me if i'm wrong, to my understanding the sensor in the 5D mkiii uses gapless microlenese technology unlike the sensor in the 5D mkii.

i think nobody said/meant the sensors are 100% IDENTICAL.

but compared to the D800 sensor canons sensor design has only made a baby jump compared to a Dwight Philipps jump.

the 5D MK3 sensor seems to be 80% based on the 4 year old design.

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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2012, 09:10:53 AM »
Love the idea of having a AF similar to 7D, and to have a pop up flash. I like this spec very much.
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2012, 09:11:26 AM »
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22mp (Same sensor as 5D3)

WTF?! 5D Mark II sensor continues to live on??

When will we see Canon put some new sensor technology in its non 1-series full frame DSLRs???

Correct me if i'm wrong, to my understanding the sensor in the 5D mkiii uses gapless microlenese technology unlike the sensor in the 5D mkii.
Canon used gapless microlenese on 50D in 2008, compare to the 40D there's not enough IQ improvement. Now it's the same story between 5D2 and 5D3

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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2012, 09:12:20 AM »
How does this make sense? Why would I want a $2000 plastic 5DII equivalent when I can have the real thing for the same money? And I don't believe there is any noticeable difference between the 5DII and 5DIII sensor. So what gives?
+1 It does not. I cannot understand why so many forum readers were waiting for something so similar and in many aspects inferior camera to 5DmkII. More plastic ? really? for the same price of 5DMkII? For a slightly better sensor? (possibly crippled by more powerful AA filter?) It is possibly a nice camera for non 5DmkII owners. But for 5DmkII onwners this rumored camera is a joke!

P.S I guess it will not have replaceable screens...
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2012, 09:19:08 AM »
Buying a 5D mkii now is the best deal for a 35mm digital camera. I don't care if/ when it's "technology" is 10+ years old, it is still going to allow me to take fantastic photos!

I for one will be using my 7D & 5Dii till they die. All my other money will just go to glass and in my pocket :)
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Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2012, 09:19:55 AM »
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22mp (Same sensor as 5D3)

WTF?! 5D Mark II sensor continues to live on??

When will we see Canon put some new sensor technology in its non 1-series full frame DSLRs???

Correct me if i'm wrong, to my understanding the sensor in the 5D mkiii uses gapless microlenese technology unlike the sensor in the 5D mkii.
Canon used gapless microlenese on 50D in 2008, compare to the 40D there's not enough IQ improvement. Now it's the same story between 5D2 and 5D3

Given that folks such as DxO measure both sensors to be almost the same below ISO 1600, this seems to have questionable benefit except for marchitecture.

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Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2012, 09:22:19 AM »
Ah, forgot. Yes, it'll probably mean trading metal bits for working autofocus, a built in flash and about 1MP more.

Oh, I can feel the goodness already.

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Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2012, 09:27:46 AM »
This camera sounds worse overall than the current 5D2.  If they want to have an entry level FF camera, they need to make this cost less...  $1499 at the absolute max.  The AF is probably better, but other than that...   :o

If they want to pit this against the upcoming D600, then the price needs to be much lower, since the D600 looks better on paper.

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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2012, 09:40:37 AM »
Yaaawn!

Still waiting for a FF camera from Canon, that offers a real IQ upgrade over the 5D2.

You know.. Like Nikon's D800 does.

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Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2012, 09:47:58 AM »
Buying a 5D mkii now is the best deal for a 35mm digital camera. I don't care if/ when it's "technology" is 10+ years old, it is still going to allow me to take fantastic photos!

I for one will be using my 7D & 5Dii till they die. All my other money will just go to glass and in my pocket :)

Agreed.  The 5D MK2 is a FANTASTIC camera and is more than enough for 98% of photographers out there who don't shoot sports.  I've been talking to more and more high-end fashion/commercial photographers and what do they use?  5D MK2 or Medium Format. 

This entry-level camera makes sense to me.  More AF points, more plastic, 22MP.  It has more technology than the 5D MK2, but not the build quality.
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« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2012, 09:50:11 AM »
Am I good or what? Exactly what I've been predicting for months now. You can expect the 70D to have pretty much the same specs, with an APS-C sensor.

7DII will be essentially the 5DIII with an APS-C sensor. It's all perfectly logical and predictable.

What's with all the whining? Did you really expect to get all the 5DIII features for half the price? If you think Nikon is better, get a Nikon. That's how the marketplace works.

Personally, I like these specs. Plenty of room to differentiate the 70D and this model from the 7DII and the 5DIII.
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Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2012, 09:58:51 AM »
Is that $1,999 for the camera AND the kit lens? Or just the body? :-P

Cause if it's for the camera AND the kit lens....I am soooooo buying one. $1,499 would be sweet for a entry level full frame.

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Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2012, 09:59:14 AM »
Buying a 5D mkii now is the best deal for a 35mm digital camera. I don't care if/ when it's "technology" is 10+ years old, it is still going to allow me to take fantastic photos!

I for one will be using my 7D & 5Dii till they die. All my other money will just go to glass and in my pocket :)

+1  :)

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« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2012, 10:00:36 AM »
as a hobbyist, I don't really need 61 AF points or the fps, and this camera is very tempting.  I'm also very curious about that non-L kit lens that would come with it.

 
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Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2012, 10:00:58 AM »
not bad, but it seems like its not entirely worth 2 grand. 19 AF points and more of a plastic body? -_- smaller form factor I guess isnt so bad, but if  its looking like I rebel, then no thank you. pop up flash, I suppose is an added bonus, something you dont see in the 5D line. its been a savior here and there. But I think I will keep my eyes on the mrk3 for my next purchase.
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