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Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
« Reply #195 on: July 17, 2012, 07:10:29 AM »
Has anyone seen the specs on the upcoming (claimed August) Sony a99 ??  http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/the-a99-specs-do-you-like-the-camera/

10-12 Fps
1080p @ 60 Fps (first dslr to do so)

Wonder if this will put pressure on Canon, and with the lower price FF coming, get them to add something via Firmware to the 5D3.


At $2599 or thereabouts, it isn't exactly clear that this would force Canon to offer a lower price.

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Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
« Reply #195 on: July 17, 2012, 07:10:29 AM »

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« Reply #196 on: July 17, 2012, 07:52:59 AM »
an articulated screen would be nice in FF
its a handy tool for low angle shots.

Agree!! A lot of people want a swivel screen!!! It is very useful for anyone who love take videos (and also photos obviously)!!

My hope:
19 af point
swivel screen
CF card!!!
built in flash
viewfinder 100%

2000 euro

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Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
« Reply #197 on: July 17, 2012, 08:06:45 AM »
I think its far to early to compare any kind of rumoured specs between a D600 or a 6D or whatever.
So no reason to be excited or moan or bash anything.
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« Reply #198 on: July 17, 2012, 08:39:35 AM »
So, for Canon, 2000 dollars is the price for an "entry level" camera.... my goodness I paid 1000 euros when I started with digital DSLRs for a EOS 10D and I thought it was a lot of money already....
anyway....
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« Reply #199 on: July 17, 2012, 08:56:24 AM »

Nonsense! All L lenses have solid metal construction! What do you think the L stands for?
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All "L" lenses. Except the 100mm L Macro.

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« Reply #200 on: July 17, 2012, 09:45:11 AM »
I have a 600d and have a couple L lenses (35 1.4 L 70-200 2.8 IS II)I want to upgrade to a full frame camera. A 5D mark III is just way to expensive I rather spend my money on glass. 1500-2000 for a FF camera with good AF, and 5d mark III sensor is perfect for me. I dont mind the 4fps nor the plastic body I just care about the IQ a FF sensor can give.

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« Reply #201 on: July 17, 2012, 09:51:05 AM »
I get the feeling reading this that its just MP envy...  I don't get it, half the comments are based on this idea that this is an upgrade for the mk2...it isn't, its a replacement for it, not an upgrade ---the upgrade is already on the shelves at stores...

And another thing I don't get - those who have a chip on their shoulder because the mk3 wasn't tailor made to their needs toss the mk3 under the bus and try to promote a fiction that its failing in the marketplace, when it isn't!!!.  If you check amazons top selling slr list, the mk3 has been in the top 10 since it became available.  For most of the time it has been right next to the d800 in sales...but as i look today the d800 isn't even on the list anymore (guessing nikon is having supply issues cause its no longer even in the top 20).  Either way, the mk3 is ranked at 4th right now, and the top 3 are sub $800 camera's.   That doesn't sound to me like a camera that's flopping....

I totally get that if your a studio shooter the mk3, or this entry level FF isn't for you, but, for those of us working in a variety of conditions, the mk3 is amazing...and if this entry level FF can hold its own in terms of high ISO IQ, then this may be an affordable backup body.  Think of it, if ISO 12,800 on an mk3 looks like ISO 3200 on a mk2, then, if you can achieve similar quality (not even equal, lets say ISO 6400 looks like ISO 3200 on an mk2...then yeah that would be enough to make me say give me this entry level FF as my backup...)

I look at it like this ----I know many local wedding shooters in my area, and about half are canon, half are nikon ---- many are grabbing mk3's or planning on picking one up in the fall.  On the nikon side, wedding shooters are going for the d3, d3s, or the d700.  And the nikonians I have talked too have said they probably won't be buying  a d800 due to the extremely huge file sizes (and if they did, it would sit in the bag most of the time, only to emerge for the formal shots or a few key ceremony shots - not worth it in most of my local communities eyes). 

So, while the d800 is impressive, the mk3 is much more well rounded, and therefore fits into the marketplace quite nicely. 

Now this new entry level...could be awesome, could be a flop, who knows...and same goes for the rumored d600...its all in the land of who knows...but hey, its fn to make a 30 page thread!  LOL, the d800 vs the mk3 thing has been beaten to death, lets smack the corpse around a little more!
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Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
« Reply #201 on: July 17, 2012, 09:51:05 AM »

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Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
« Reply #202 on: July 17, 2012, 10:28:18 AM »
Think of it, if ISO 12,800 on an mk3 looks like ISO 3200 on a mk2, then, if you can achieve similar quality (not even equal, lets say ISO 6400 looks like ISO 3200 on an mk2...then yeah that would be enough to make me say give me this entry level FF as my backup...)


I have a 5DII and I will upgrade to 5DIII, but high ISO performance is NOT that much better unless you shoot only JPG. Who does that on a 5D series camera?

Comparing ISO performance using out-of-the-camera jpeg shots is nonsense.

The only place you get 2 stops of improvement is in video. That is cool on it's own. For photos it is about 1/2 a stop improvement.

Other than that, I agree the 5DIII is an awesome camera with a ton of upgrades over the 5DII.

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Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
« Reply #203 on: July 17, 2012, 10:29:40 AM »
So, for Canon, 2000 dollars is the price for an "entry level" camera.... my goodness I paid 1000 euros when I started with digital DSLRs for a EOS 10D and I thought it was a lot of money already....
anyway....

Well shoot in early 2004 i bought my first DSLR, the 10D as well... battery grip, extra battery, etc...  Paid nearly $1600 at my local store... probably, in hindsight, i could have gotten it cheaper online but I guess I was young and stupid at that time, haha... and not too longer after I bought that camera, the friggen 20D came out...  Oh well live and learn 
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Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
« Reply #204 on: July 17, 2012, 10:36:58 AM »
Wonder if this will put pressure on Canon, and with the lower price FF coming, get them to add something via Firmware to the 5D3.
They may as well remove something from 5D3: The high price  ;D

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« Reply #205 on: July 17, 2012, 11:02:49 AM »
A Pop-Up Flash for FF so that TS-E lens will be a pain to use and anyway it does not allow shutter speed to go below 1/200? I hope not.
No mentioning of dual slots? Even rumored new micro 4/3 (like GH3) bodies will have that...
Canon DSLR video is beaten by even current GH2 (in terms of quality, from usability perspective DSLR does not even come close).
No mentioning of tilt-swivel LCD? I know FF is so professional that no-one needs it...
Sure it can attract a lot of people just because it's FF and can be a money machine for Canon but really is this the DSLR that I'm supposed to be excited in 2012?
I go on and check that micro 4/3 lens chart again now. That's more interesting. The days of these entry level DSLRs can be counted.

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« Reply #206 on: July 17, 2012, 11:15:11 AM »
A Pop-Up Flash for FF so that TS-E lens will be a pain to use and anyway it does not allow shutter speed to go below 1/200? I hope not.
No mentioning of dual slots? Even rumored new micro 4/3 (like GH3) bodies will have that...
Canon DSLR video is beaten by even current GH2 (in terms of quality, from usability perspective DSLR does not even come close).
No mentioning of tilt-swivel LCD? I know FF is so professional that no-one needs it...
Sure it can attract a lot of people just because it's FF and can be a money machine for Canon but really is this the DSLR that I'm supposed to be excited in 2012?
I go on and check that micro 4/3 lens chart again now. That's more interesting. The days of these entry level DSLRs can be counted.

Why not a G1X then?

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Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
« Reply #207 on: July 17, 2012, 11:21:57 AM »
The days of these entry level DSLRs can be counted.

7,748 and counting... (based on 5/1/1991 release of Kodak DCS 100).

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« Reply #207 on: July 17, 2012, 11:21:57 AM »

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« Reply #208 on: July 17, 2012, 11:28:37 AM »
7,748 and counting... (based on 5/1/1991 release of Kodak DCS 100).

You may have missed the entry level part.

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Re: Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
« Reply #209 on: July 17, 2012, 11:32:11 AM »
7,748 and counting... (based on 5/1/1991 release of Kodak DCS 100).

You may have missed the entry level part.

Well the DCS WAS ENTRY LEVEL. (The only level infact) ;D

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« Reply #209 on: July 17, 2012, 11:32:11 AM »