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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2012, 09:24:58 AM »
All of Canons 50mm lenses lack something, maybe except for the 1.2L (which is in turn quite expensive).
The 1.4 is built way under par, and the dramatic difference between image center and corners makes it
easy to hate it. The 1.8 is an insult in its build quality, and the optically well performing 2.5 compact macro
is in desperate need of a better drive.

So yes, there is a lot of need for a new 50mm.

I still have a 1.8/50mm MkI, and I have the 2.5/50 compact macro.
The 1.8 is good enough for low light, and the 2.5 is good for general work.
Both are way from perfect.


1.8/50 with the mechanical build quality of the 1.2L at a price point of 350 USD or below would be a no-brainer.

Let's see what canon comes up with.

For the cost of the 1.2L it should be outstanding without any issues, but it isn't as there is a widespread issue of focus shifting and other focus issues.

I would love to see Canon release a decent 50 1.8 (~$250) and 50 1.4 (~$450) with good build quality and ring USM. Hopefully they'll come up with something along those lines.

How many times does this misinformation go around? I thought it wasn't an issue of focus shifting problems as it's part of the design to not contain a floating rear element to improve bokeh quality.

Anywho - I've owned the canon 50mm 1.8 II, 50mm 1.4, zeiss 50 1.4 and now the canon 50mm 1.2 - I can easily say that the 1.2 is my favorite out of the bunch with the zeiss coming in second (love that MF ring and build quality).

I'm not going to freak out on the 849 price just yet - we don't know if it's final, we don't know what that lens is including in-terms of build, optics, IS, etc - what's the point of freaking out just now?

I'm excited to see them finally updating it and I look forward to seeing what it brings.
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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2012, 09:24:58 AM »

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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2012, 09:26:30 AM »
The 50mm f/1.8 mkI is the way to go. <200$, metal mount, focus ring, focus scale, made in Japan.

I don't even need USM. Just give me a metal mount, great optics at a good price!
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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2012, 09:28:48 AM »
Ouch !  at that price, surely IS would be included ?
Uh....let us remind you of the $2300- and- never- arriving 24-70mm f2.8L II.... And no IS there. I would bet that a new 50 mm f/1.4 would come in at that price...without IS...it's the new trend.
Also...look at the $1000 price increase on the 5DII upgrade.....???
I never thought I would own a Sigma lens...but they have Canon beat in that dept IMHO....so right there that is embarassment enough to produce a lens that is at least modern.LOL!
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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2012, 09:29:18 AM »
well, does not really belong here... but
are there any new rumors regarding a 35mm f/1,4 L Version II ?
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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2012, 09:31:09 AM »
$849 for a new version of a pretty good existing lens? Sure this one should be a long way better than ver. 1. But what they can improve? In mine 1.4 CA is quite good (OK, not perfect, but eliminated with one click in PP), sharpness - too, USM is quite accurate and fast enough. Well, build quality is so-so, but for 500$ more? Thank you, but... thank you!

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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2012, 09:33:34 AM »
Maybe there is a big mega pixel camera coming out and it needs a super resolving lens to make it worthwhile.

Ouch $849.
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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2012, 10:00:39 AM »
Gosh, you'd think with all the money they're saving on what looks like having stopped development of new sensors they wouldn't need to be so money hungry on new glass.

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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2012, 11:35:43 AM »
I have a 50mm 1.4 and really wish it had quicker and better AF in low light and sharper wide open.  If they improve on these two factors (closer to the 1.2L optically) I could easily see them selling it for $800+.  In fact there is a huge gap in price between the 50 1.4 and the 1.2.  However seeing as this is a replacement for the 1.4 that would leave a gap on the low end.  I don't mind seeing a 50% increase in price if they deliver on features but lately Canon's new models seems to all be at a significant price increase.

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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2012, 11:38:13 AM »
i have a Sigma 50mm 1.4 and it is awesome. Very solid and pleasant to use for 450 bucks. I definitely wouldn't be in the market for an 850 dollar 50mm.
The pricing of Canon really has me scratching my head lately. If the bodies were expensive and the lenses were cheap I could accept it, or opposite:cheap bodies, expensive glass.
When will we get some really good news?
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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2012, 11:46:20 AM »
I came in at the 15-85 days, so I don't know if the 'the lens would be better at $" thing started then, or is just something from pricing experts.

Am I the only person that won't pay retail? Bundle? Used? Think about it, at nearly $900, we're talking improved (just sub-L) build quality, most likely a faster USM ( think the 85mm f1.8) and probably improved IQ.

IS, well, Yeah, that'd be nice, but if it's the same system from the 70-300mm non-L, I think we're all better off without it. 
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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2012, 11:59:58 AM »
I think the existing Canon 50mm f/1.4 is only acceptable due to its low price. It's design is very dated and I've held off upgrading an AF '50 since none of the options are really appealing beyond the f/1.8. If a new f/1.4 has modern optical design (better resolution wide open, less loCA) and ring USM, double the current price is about right.

For perspective, the current Canon f/1.4 is even cheaper than the Sigma, which I would get but focus shift is a major deal breaker in my uses.
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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2012, 12:01:57 PM »
I would love to have an updated 50mm 1.8 with IS and 7 aperture blades, but I am not at all willing to spend $800 on 50mm lens.

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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2012, 12:10:53 PM »
Canon price jacking is still in full effect I see, but this lens is definitely in need of update due to it's extremely fragile focusing mechanism.  Bump the front element of the existing 50 1.4 and there's a good chance you'll need a trip to Canon.  It's well documented on the Canon forums and the reason alot of people go with the Sigma 50, but for ~$800 the replacement better be built like a tank....
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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2012, 12:13:16 PM »
Id love to see a new 50 1.4 II at around 500$, anything higher than that and a lot of people wont be buying it due to somewhat of a price barrier or price vs performance issues,
For what i want to upgrade to id like to see a better Build with ring USM and some updated optics, at 1.4 you don't really need stabilization IMO.

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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2012, 12:20:01 PM »
canon seems to think DSLRs are for people with more money then brains if they sell this for 8xx $ without IS.

so we can expect that every updated lens canon releases cost 2.5x as much.

and then they deliver only evolutionary but no exciting new cameras.
i can´t complain the 5D MK3 still sells well.. but the D800 sells better.

from a resellers point of view it´s all ok for me.

but as  a private canon shooter.. well that´s a different story.

nikon is putting a lot of pressure on canon.
canon is maybe still no. 1 when it comes to market penetration. but not when it comes to innovations. i have seen this too often before to be not concerend. being a market leader means not much in these days. it can change very quick (sony, nokia you hear me?).
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