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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2012, 12:31:18 PM »
I would love to see an $800 50mm 1.4L  I would expect it would be sharper, higher contrast and no flare or ghosting at 1.4.  I love the current 1.4, but wide open it's hit or miss when it comes to quality.  I do love the 50 1.2L, but it is very expensive.  I just end up renting it.  This new one I would actually buy.  If it had IS also, consider it sold.

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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2012, 12:31:18 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2012, 12:51:17 PM »
$849 for a 50/1.4 II? No IS?

Just how stupid does Canon think we are?
Probably no more stupid than paying $450-500 for the sigma 50mm f/1.4.
Yes, prices are getting out of hand.

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« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2012, 12:58:25 PM »
Hope the price is wrong. I got the 50mm 1.8 II at the moment and if i wanna upgrade i would just save more and get the L version if the 1.4 would cost abouzt 850$.

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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2012, 01:09:11 PM »
I'd rather pay $2k for a mk2 version of the 1.2L that doesn't focus shift and isn't soft wide open, than $850 for a mk2 1.4
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« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2012, 02:12:03 PM »
I'd rather pay $2k for a mk2 version of the 1.2L that doesn't focus shift and isn't soft wide open, than $850 for a mk2 1.4

What are you comparing the 1.2L to in order to call it soft at f1.2?  There is a post above this that mentions the focus shift.

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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2012, 02:18:09 PM »
I'd rather pay $2k for a mk2 version of the 1.2L that doesn't focus shift and isn't soft wide open, than $850 for a mk2 1.4

What are you comparing the 1.2L to in order to call it soft at f1.2?  There is a post above this that mentions the focus shift.

+1.

Never seen the famous focus shift and is sharp at 1.2.

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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2012, 02:51:41 PM »
I'd rather pay $2k for a mk2 version of the 1.2L that doesn't focus shift and isn't soft wide open, than $850 for a mk2 1.4

What are you comparing the 1.2L to in order to call it soft at f1.2?  There is a post above this that mentions the focus shift.

When I owned it (briefly), I compared it to my 85LII, and it was shockingly soft.  Have also tried 2 other copies which both exhibited the same thing.  At f/2, it was razor sharp, but if I'm going to shoot at f/2, I'm not going to spend $1500.   
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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2012, 02:51:41 PM »

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« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2012, 02:59:55 PM »

When I owned it (briefly), I compared it to my 85LII, and it was shockingly soft.  Have also tried 2 other copies which both exhibited the same thing.  At f/2, it was razor sharp, but if I'm going to shoot at f/2, I'm not going to spend $1500.

Mine was ok. Not as sharp as the 85 but it was ok...

And back to Topic: If its a 1.4 it must be stunning. Sharp to the edges at 1.4. Cause its price is really ugly

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« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2012, 03:14:18 PM »
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At $850 it better come with a bottle of lube to help relieve the pain. Not sure what Canon has been smoking but if that price is correct it better have build like an L lens in all respects except the weather sealing to be marketable.

There are times I wish I wasn't so vested in a single system...
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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2012, 03:24:31 PM »
good news indeed, I'm a big supporter of the 1.8 for value/performance reasons.  Never could bring myself to upgrade to a 1.4 or the 1.2 simply because for the money I never thought the 1.4 was three times better than the 1.8 and certainly never thought the 1.2 was four times better than the 1.4.  That being said I have been patiently waiting for canon to update the 1.4 and see if we get updated optics and true ring usm.  If we do and the performance is great then price may not matter so much. 

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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2012, 03:30:34 PM »
i have a Sigma 50mm 1.4 and it is awesome. Very solid and pleasant to use for 450 bucks. I definitely wouldn't be in the market for an 850 dollar 50mm.
The pricing of Canon really has me scratching my head lately. If the bodies were expensive and the lenses were cheap I could accept it, or opposite:cheap bodies, expensive glass.
When will we get some really good news?

I agree..have the same lens and LOVE it. It really beats out all the Canon 50mm lenses from a performance/price standpoint.  It was the only choice I could make and feel good. 
 Perhaps the pricing we are seeing is in large-part happening because of the tsunami.......?
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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #41 on: July 17, 2012, 03:38:32 PM »

And back to Topic: If its a 1.4 it must be stunning. Sharp to the edges at 1.4. Cause its price is really ugly

I can't see the new version being sharp to the edges wide open.  None of the fast 50s from Canon, Nikon, Sigma do that.  It Canon were to figure that out, it'd be an L for 2k+.

Besides the 50mm f/1.4, which other Canon lenses sell at a discount to their Sigma counterparts?  Even if the new 50 f/1.4 were to match Sigma's offering, Canon's price would still likely be higher than Sigma's by a couple hundred dollars, which puts it near the $600-700.

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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #42 on: July 17, 2012, 03:57:16 PM »
canon seems to think DSLRs are for people with more money then brains if they sell this for 8xx $ without IS.

so we can expect that every updated lens canon releases cost 2.5x as much.

and then they deliver only evolutionary but no exciting new cameras.
i can´t complain the 5D MK3 still sells well.. but the D800 sells better.

from a resellers point of view it´s all ok for me.

but as  a private canon shooter.. well that´s a different story.

nikon is putting a lot of pressure on canon.
canon is maybe still no. 1 when it comes to market penetration. but not when it comes to innovations. i have seen this too often before to be not concerend. being a market leader means not much in these days. it can change very quick (sony, nokia you hear me?).
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Can you share where you've obtained these sales figures to show that the D800 is selling better than the 5DMark3? I swear some people just make S___ up for no reason.
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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
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« Reply #43 on: July 17, 2012, 04:05:46 PM »
All of Canons 50mm lenses lack something, maybe except for the 1.2L (which is in turn quite expensive).
Funny you. How about focus consistency (and a fix for the focus shift problem)?

The 50L also lack sharpness when shot wide open, at least if you compare it to the wide open sharpness of other L primes.

Never seen the famous focus shift and is sharp at 1.2.
Sorry to break your illusion, but all 50L's are suffering from focus shift, even yours.. And no, it is far from sharp enough at f/1.2.

35L, 85L and 135L kills it in terms of wide open sharpness.
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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2012, 04:13:22 PM »
All of Canons 50mm lenses lack something, maybe except for the 1.2L (which is in turn quite expensive).
Funny you. How about focus consistency (and a fix for the focus shift problem)?

The 50L also lack sharpness when shot wide open, at least if you compare it to the wide open sharpness of other L primes.

Never seen the famous focus shift and is sharp at 1.2.
Sorry to break your illusion, but all 50L's are suffering from focus shift, even yours.. And no, it is far from sharp enough at f/1.2.

35L, 85L and 135L kills it in terms of wide open sharpness.

Eat your heart out goodness! Never seen the shift! 50L forever. 8)

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Re: New Canon 50mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2012, 04:13:22 PM »