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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2012, 08:34:57 AM »
After measuring the data from the pic (53mm max. internal mount diameter) I see

  21.5 mm sensor width
  1.45 aspect ratio

=> APS-C

... if I haven't made any mistakes, the images are real and the visible sensor area is nearly the imaging area.

One weird thing: the mount is very similar to the standard EF mount but ... it is rotated by roughly 15 degree counter clockwise ... so the adapter will never be a standard extension tube.
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2012, 08:34:57 AM »

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2012, 08:37:34 AM »
not as I expected. If ef-m is compatible with ef lens, I will consider to get one.
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #47 on: July 20, 2012, 08:39:15 AM »
Well, from the new pictures it seems an APS-C sensor indeed
For me the omision of flash is great, I preffer no flash than a useless flash; anyway, there is the 270EX which is pretty good and very pocketeable. I guess they will release an even smaller one for trhese cameras

 If it does have a 3.5 shutter cable release and keeps the silent live view (I mainly shoot macro) I am in; it would be my second body for macro (first is 5D mkII) and would be the only camera I would take to the street when travelling

The only thing I fear is the sensor IQ is going to be well behind NEX cameras
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #48 on: July 20, 2012, 08:41:02 AM »
Think its a pretty decent looking thing. I do like it.

But what's most crucial to me is the picture quality.  QUALITY. 

From the latest picts, judging by the flange size relative to the filter ring 43mm and relative to the sensor, looks indeed to be APS-C sized sensor.





As for the part regarding no build-in flash but flash mount part ...  neither does the 5D, 1D cameras ...

Looks to me like this will be entry level model. I hope that there will be some more advanced one. But APS-C sensor size is very welcome. Maybe Ill trade my 450D for something like this after I get FF :)
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #49 on: July 20, 2012, 08:42:45 AM »
I just hope it isn't all touchscreen.

touchscreen is a lot better than no controls at all...

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #50 on: July 20, 2012, 08:46:07 AM »
I just hope it isn't all touchscreen.

touchscreen is a lot better than no controls at all...

How great would be if this toy might have a dual mode: active, ordinary one and passive like in Kindle for work in the bright day.
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #51 on: July 20, 2012, 08:47:37 AM »
I'm afraid this one will die on controls.

The blurred shot of the back suggests there is a thin clickable wheel around the fourway buttons - the same one I found utterly unreliable and clumsy to use on the G1 series. If this turns out to be true, the camera will be completely useless to anyone with bigger hands used to handling 40D/7D/5D+ bodies. (Doesn't Canon do product testing outside Japan as well?)

Other than that, most EOS users will be jealous of what appears to be the focus assist lamp on the mirrorless... Why can't Canon copy at least that feature from Nikon?

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« Reply #51 on: July 20, 2012, 08:47:37 AM »

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #52 on: July 20, 2012, 08:54:24 AM »
I'm afraid this one will die on controls.

(...)

Other than that, most EOS users will be jealous of what appears to be the focus assist lamp on the mirrorless... Why can't Canon copy at least that feature from Nikon?

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #53 on: July 20, 2012, 08:56:59 AM »
EF- and EF-S-lenses have a flange focal distance of 44mm. I don't see space in this camera for such a big ffd, meaning an EF-to-EF-M-converter would have to contain optics, if it is at all possible. I'd say EF-lenses are pretty much not going to be usable.

The opposite is true, the camera's native flange focal distance will be less than the EF lenses so you can use an optic-less adapter. It's when the native flange focal distance is greater than what the lens is designed for that you need optics in the adapter.

The EF flange focal distance is greater than FD flange focal distance so you need optics in the adapter.
The EF flange focal distance is less than the Nikon flange focal distance so you don't need optics in the adapter.
You're of course right. EF-M-lenses will not be usable on EF-bodies, but it'll work the other way round.

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #54 on: July 20, 2012, 08:59:38 AM »
So, where's the photo of it attached to an 800L?   ::)
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #55 on: July 20, 2012, 09:04:54 AM »
Looking at the diameter of this f:2 lens front element in relation
to the flange diameter.......  I guess we're up to extremely fast
and still compact glass in the future, maybe.

If video quality in Full HD is good and allows full manual exposure,
I'm certainly in for one.

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #56 on: July 20, 2012, 09:09:49 AM »
nice consumer grade camera, but imho not for pros (unless with some stellar picture quality and ISO performance), look so similar to nikon j1/v1, but as all we have seen nikon drew a blank with those two models. I don't know why canon doesn't look at what others do before starting to make a new camera..  :(

I'll wait for the full specs hoping in a top notch autofocus at least..  ;)

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #57 on: July 20, 2012, 09:20:29 AM »
If it really host the barrage of EF lenses I will own this camera. I never thought I'd say that, but having all this glass it'd be so fun to be able to put that on such a small camera on stay a little more discrete when shooting. 

A Pancake 40 would look perfect on it.

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #58 on: July 20, 2012, 09:25:48 AM »
nice consumer grade camera, but imho not for pros (unless with some stellar picture quality and ISO performance), look so similar to nikon j1/v1, but as all we have seen nikon drew a blank with those two models. I don't know why canon doesn't look at what others do before starting to make a new camera..  :(

I'll wait for the full specs hoping in a top notch autofocus at least..  ;)

I don't think that J1/V1 from Nikon are comparable to the EOS M due to their sensor size. With adaptor I can use my lens range as I used it with my 40Ds - the 10-22 will stay a 16-35 equiv lens. I don't want to buy into different systems except perhaps FF - and I collected my lenses according to that change.

Let's see the EOS M as an intelligent back cap for my 10-22 that I use very seldom but it would be great to have fast access to its focal range with an EOS M attached to it.
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #59 on: July 20, 2012, 09:28:17 AM »
looks ugly

+1.....I was hoping "classic" style. This is more like P&S body style. I guess, no mirrorless body for me.
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