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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #60 on: July 20, 2012, 09:28:47 AM »
If it really host the barrage of EF lenses I will own this camera. I never thought I'd say that, but having all this glass it'd be so fun to be able to put that on such a small camera on stay a little more discrete when shooting. 

I doubt that with most Lenses attached this will be enough to stay discrete, save for shutter noise.  ;)

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #60 on: July 20, 2012, 09:28:47 AM »

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #61 on: July 20, 2012, 09:36:27 AM »

I don't think that J1/V1 from Nikon are comparable to the EOS M due to their sensor size. With adaptor I can use my lens range as I used it with my 40Ds - the 10-22 will stay a 16-35 equiv lens. I don't want to buy into different systems except perhaps FF - and I collected my lenses according to that change.

Let's see the EOS M as an intelligent back cap for my 10-22 that I use very seldom but it would be great to have fast access to its focal range with an EOS M attached to it.

That I agree. It would be a very appealing camera to existing EOS lens owners due to the equivalent DOF and focal length with a EF/EF-s adaptor.

As for your question on compatibility, if its compatible with EF, EF-S should not be an issue. The EF-S focussing plane distance is still further than the flange distance for mirrorless systems since it requires a clearance for the mirrorbox in APS-C/EF-S cameras. 

So, if its designed as as EF mount adapter and works with the focusing distance of the EF lenses, it will be able to clear EF-S too.

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #62 on: July 20, 2012, 09:36:34 AM »
Finally a second camera I can just grab and slip into my coat pocket, then slip a hotshoe viewfinder into my other coat pocket. Then stash an external flash in my wife's purse, then sling a dslr bag around my neck and keep an EF adaptor and some of my EF lenses in that. On second thought, I'll just bring my 5d3.

Judging by the lack of buttons, this is surely for consumers, so no built-in flash seems like a mistake.

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #63 on: July 20, 2012, 09:37:13 AM »
I can guess its same old aps-c 18mp sensor, either from 7d or t4i.
same old candy wrapped in new shape. Canon is playing this kind of a game from couple of years.


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« Reply #64 on: July 20, 2012, 09:39:23 AM »
@funkboy

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touchscreen is a lot better than no controls at all...

True up to a point.  However, I lusted after a Panasonic GF1, but never remotely considered a GF2 or GF3 for precisely this reason.

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... if I haven't made any mistakes, the images are real and the visible sensor area is nearly the imaging area.

One weird thing: the mount is very similar to the standard EF mount but ... it is rotated by roughly 15 degree counter clockwise ... so the adapter will never be a standard extension tube.

Would never be a standard extension tube in any case, for EF lenses apertures and focus to work you would need some comms between the body and camera.  The ribbon can follow any path it wants between the two ends, so the rotation is hardly a big deal (so long as the adapter rotates the lens back by the same so that the
focus scale, switches and bayonet petaled lens hoods stay in the correct final position) an extension tube is generally designed to permit closer focusing, an adapter is generally designed to retain regular focus ranges of the adapted lens.

That said, it could be a great camera for adapting antique or obselete optics to!

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A Pancake 40 would look perfect on it.

That may depend on the adapter!  If that is, an adapter is required.


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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #65 on: July 20, 2012, 09:40:30 AM »
Great...another "me too" in the already-saturated and largely-ignored MILC segment.  Must not be much room to be innovative in this area.  Too big to be pocketable, too small to be powerful.  Snore!

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #66 on: July 20, 2012, 09:41:43 AM »
WOW, finally a Canon lens cap WITH additional inner grips ... like Nikon and almost evryone else has them for decades. Wonder, whether it will be included with the lens or an optional item like lens hoods ...  :P


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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #67 on: July 20, 2012, 10:01:40 AM »
I can guess its same old aps-c 18mp sensor, either from 7d or t4i.
same old candy wrapped in new shape. Canon is playing this kind of a game from couple of years.

I'm guessing T4i  sensor since they bothered with the on-chip phase detect AF. Having seen T4i's live view AF performance, though, I doubt it will be even in the ballpark of V1/NEX/GFx unless Canon has been seriously hiding things from EOS users these 5 years.  >:(

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #68 on: July 20, 2012, 10:05:20 AM »
I don't know about the rest of you but this is gonna be a long weekend! I can't wait for Monday!!! I wanna know the truth about this thing now!
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #69 on: July 20, 2012, 10:26:08 AM »
This is a joke, is it?

And to me it proves that what I really want is to a) free up some major cash one day to buy the M9 and a few lenses or b) waiting for somebody to finally come up with a M9-like rangefinder with full frame sensor for half the price

...or c) finally set up a darkroom in the basement and go medium format film

Certainly not interested in this one if it materializes like that. It looks like a 1980s point and shoot of the worst kind.
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #70 on: July 20, 2012, 10:31:38 AM »
I like the looks. Simple, and friendly. If the touchscreen is as good as the T4i, I have a winner in my books. It even has a fast prime, which is awesome. 8)

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #71 on: July 20, 2012, 10:35:16 AM »
Well, from the new pictures it seems an APS-C sensor indeed
For me the omision of flash is great, I preffer no flash than a useless flash; anyway, there is the 270EX which is pretty good and very pocketeable. I guess they will release an even smaller one for trhese cameras

 If it does have a 3.5 shutter cable release and keeps the silent live view (I mainly shoot macro) I am in; it would be my second body for macro (first is 5D mkII) and would be the only camera I would take to the street when travelling

The only thing I fear is the sensor IQ is going to be well behind NEX cameras

If that new lens is real, you'll be happy to have another macro lens option! I wonder if what the Maximum Magnification ratio is?

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #72 on: July 20, 2012, 10:35:39 AM »
Finally a second camera I can just grab and slip into my coat pocket, then slip a hotshoe viewfinder into my other coat pocket. Then stash an external flash in my wife's purse, then sling a dslr bag around my neck and keep an EF adaptor and some of my EF lenses in that. On second thought, I'll just bring my 5d3.

Judging by the lack of buttons, this is surely for consumers, so no built-in flash seems like a mistake.

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #73 on: July 20, 2012, 10:39:27 AM »
If it has a 1.6x sensor and has an available adapter that controls EF lenses I will absolutely buy one.  The only thing I am worried about with the EF adapter is lenses like the newer 70-200 2.8 IS II will suck the poor battery dry in no time at all.  there is just no room in that thing for a battery big enough.  I am afraid that a EF to EF-m adapter will disable IS and/or AF (I hope I am wrong!). 
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #74 on: July 20, 2012, 10:44:58 AM »
This is the camera that the Canon community has been holding their breath for?
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