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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #195 on: July 21, 2012, 05:02:53 AM »
I actually like the look of it, sure it isn't retro-looking like the Fuji X series or the Leicas but I don't find it ugly at all.

I don't have money to spend at the moment, but I can't wait to see what else canon has to offer.  ;D

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #195 on: July 21, 2012, 05:02:53 AM »

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #196 on: July 21, 2012, 05:32:56 AM »
Does everyone want a camera that is a sub 1000$ Leica?

Of course they do. Just like everyone wants a sub $30000 Ferrari.

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #197 on: July 21, 2012, 05:50:12 AM »
I overlayed a 7D and lined up the mounting ring as best I could (first pic), then traced around the sensor on the 7d and overlayed that on the EOS-M (second pic).

Pretty sure that's aps-c we're looking at.

What also intrigues me is that it looks like the diameter of the lens mount is large enough to accomodate a full frame sensor.  It looks like Canon may be playing the long game here, with a view to a strategic investment in a system which can be extended, rather than looking for a quick win.

Of course it's large enough, it's an EF series mount.  But you're right, Canon (as usual) are playing the big picture long game here.  They would never put everything on the plate straight away, got to leave enough features out to enable yearly upgrades.

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #198 on: July 21, 2012, 06:15:43 AM »

…. and what I asked for was a M9 busting rangefinder street camera but that was never going to happen either don’t think I’ll even log on Monday think I’ll go and take some piccies instead yaaaaawnnnnnnnn


This M9 with Hermes?  ;D
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meh you can keep the cow skin my cat would just try and piss on it  ;D ;D

anyways not sure if this P&S really should be called a camera after all a proper camera has a viewfinder this looks more like a phone that can’t make calls  :P

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #199 on: July 21, 2012, 06:22:22 AM »
What also intrigues me is that it looks like the diameter of the lens mount is large enough to accomodate a full frame sensor.  It looks like Canon may be playing the long game here, with a view to a strategic investment in a system which can be extended, rather than looking for a quick win.

Good call, though since the mount is about the same size that all stands to reason.  Again, mounts last for decades so no reason to kill FF for mirrorless.  As EVFs get better it's entirely possible we'll see a FF mirrorless.  Heck, mirrored may go away entirely.  Mirrorless doesn't have to be small.  Folks curse EVFs, but EVFs can be made to be whatever size they wish.  Optical viewfinders are the size they are due to physical constraints and how much light there is.  Remove all that and replace it with something that has the cost curve of electronics.

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #200 on: July 21, 2012, 06:30:22 AM »
If this is indeed APS-C, I'm very intrigued.
The only real problem I see with this camera is no pop up flash and no viewfinder.....
Why does Canon think someone in a mirrorless system is going to want to carry around a seperate flash unit.... I hate that Canon doesn't put pop ups on their DSLR's.
I am also very curious if this EF-M can take FF in the future. Because there is no pop up flash, viewfinder, and the fact that there is sure to be an upgraded specs version of this I will wait to join Canon Mirrorless... but once these things are in FF, I will jump on it instantly.
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #201 on: July 21, 2012, 07:04:36 AM »
bottom line.....

this camera may is an disappointment for photographers... but it´s only the first camera in a long line.

so if you don´t like this camera (and i don´t like it that much) wait for the pro model and the evolution of the line.

im happy that it´s aps-c... great things to come.
now canon has to show a few great M-mount lenses.


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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #202 on: July 21, 2012, 07:06:40 AM »
I don't see the missing flash as an issue. The viewfinder is something else. They have chosen a very compact form factor, what is quite good, but Sony has proven with the Nex7 that it is achievable to have such a form factor without sacrificing the VF.
Canon seems to propose a serious contender to the Nex3 and maybe to the Nex5 (if touchscreen allows advanced controls), now I hope for a Nex7 rival. But I do like that one already.

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #203 on: July 21, 2012, 07:32:07 AM »
If this is indeed APS-C, I'm very intrigued.
The only real problem I see with this camera is no pop up flash and no viewfinder.....
Why does Canon think someone in a mirrorless system is going to want to carry around a seperate flash unit.... I hate that Canon doesn't put pop ups on their DSLR's.
I am also very curious if this EF-M can take FF in the future. Because there is no pop up flash, viewfinder, and the fact that there is sure to be an upgraded specs version of this I will wait to join Canon Mirrorless... but once these things are in FF, I will jump on it instantly.

I would guess it has an ultra-bight LED in the upper left corner. With higher ISO capabilities a constant on LED will give about the same perfromance as the low guide number flashes on early Rebels.

edit: Canon Digital Rebel (300D) has/had a built in flash with a guide number of 13 (ISO 100, meters)
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #204 on: July 21, 2012, 07:41:02 AM »
I would guess it has an ultra-bight LED in the upper left corner.

sure not.  ;)
a lens would shadow half the light.

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« Reply #205 on: July 21, 2012, 08:20:54 AM »

Canon EF-M 18-55 IS


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Re: Canon EF-M 18-55 IS Lens Image
« Reply #206 on: July 21, 2012, 08:22:51 AM »
So it actually is an APS-C sensor in the M Mount?  And obviously IBIS won't be a feature.

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Re: Canon EF-M 18-55 IS Lens Image
« Reply #207 on: July 21, 2012, 08:25:11 AM »
How fast is the aperture?
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Re: Canon EF-M 18-55 IS Lens & Flash Image
« Reply #208 on: July 21, 2012, 08:29:59 AM »
18-55 points to an APC-C sensor?

That flash may be good for me when travelling with my 5DII  8)
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #209 on: July 21, 2012, 08:44:13 AM »
I overlayed a 7D and lined up the mounting ring as best I could (first pic), then traced around the sensor on the 7d and overlayed that on the EOS-M (second pic).

Pretty sure that's aps-c we're looking at.
I really like the textured 7D grip  instead of the little strip grip on this thing. That alone would make me more interested in this camera.
5DIII 8-200mm minus 35mm in there.

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #209 on: July 21, 2012, 08:44:13 AM »