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« Reply #210 on: July 21, 2012, 09:05:17 AM »
18-55 points to an APC-C sensor?

That flash may be good for me when travelling with my 5DII  8)

What I'm wondering as well is whether there will be greater reliance on software (or silicon) to correct spherical (and possibly chromatic) aberration.  That could possibly see small(er) sharp(er), (relatively) more affordable lenses, but a greater reliance on the in-camera JPG engine or post-processing in software to correct aberrations.
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Re: Canon EF-M 18-55 IS Lens & Flash Image
« Reply #210 on: July 21, 2012, 09:05:17 AM »

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #211 on: July 21, 2012, 09:19:58 AM »
I forgot to mention. What if this camera is jpg only?!

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #212 on: July 21, 2012, 09:32:03 AM »
I forgot to mention. What if this camera is jpg only?!

Then you'll have to wait until you can use CHDK with it  ???
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #213 on: July 21, 2012, 09:40:04 AM »
I overlayed a 7D and lined up the mounting ring as best I could (first pic), then traced around the sensor on the 7d and overlayed that on the EOS-M (second pic).

Pretty sure that's aps-c we're looking at.

What also intrigues me is that it looks like the diameter of the lens mount is large enough to accomodate a full frame sensor.  It looks like Canon may be playing the long game here, with a view to a strategic investment in a system which can be extended, rather than looking for a quick win.

Of course it's large enough, it's an EF series mount.  But you're right, Canon (as usual) are playing the big picture long game here.  They would never put everything on the plate straight away, got to leave enough features out to enable yearly upgrades.

You need it to be EF sized, to use the adaptor for all of our EF lenses... which it most certainly will have...

Now.. mirrorless FF?  I think it's unlikely.  You'd have to create another mount.. same flange distance as the EF-M, lenses with larger full frame image circles..  it probably wouldn't be able to use EF-M lenses, unless they do a crop mode like Nikon...   


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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #214 on: July 21, 2012, 09:57:36 AM »
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You need it to be EF sized, to use the adaptor for all of our EF lenses... which it most certainly will have...

Now.. mirrorless FF?  I think it's unlikely.  You'd have to create another mount.. same flange distance as the EF-M, lenses with larger full frame image circles..  it probably wouldn't be able to use EF-M lenses, unless they do a crop mode like Nikon...

It is not an EF sized mount.  You will need an adapter for two reasons. Increase the flange to sensor distance and also  to physically mount the larger EF or EF-S mount to the smaller EF-M mount.

This is also true when mounting Sony Alpha mount lenses to their Sony E mount NEX cameras.

By my rough calculations the EF-M lens mount would be about 15% smaller than an EF or EF-S mount.





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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #215 on: July 21, 2012, 10:43:31 AM »
Are those extra contacts on the hot shoe and if so, has anyone else noticed them?

Could that mean that the hot shoe is for something else in addition to a flash?

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #216 on: July 21, 2012, 11:06:40 AM »
Are those extra contacts on the hot shoe and if so, has anyone else noticed them?

Could that mean that the hot shoe is for something else in addition to a flash?

It looks like two Phillips head screws to me.



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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #216 on: July 21, 2012, 11:06:40 AM »

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #217 on: July 21, 2012, 11:14:38 AM »
Are those extra contacts on the hot shoe and if so, has anyone else noticed them?

Could that mean that the hot shoe is for something else in addition to a flash?

EVF perhaps? There is also one extra contact in the lens mount, for power zoom perhaps?

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #218 on: July 21, 2012, 11:25:40 AM »
Are those extra contacts on the hot shoe and if so, has anyone else noticed them?

Could that mean that the hot shoe is for something else in addition to a flash?

yes i have posted about them before.
thought it could be for an EVF.. but could be screws also.

thought i have no camera that has screws on the hotshoe.

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #219 on: July 21, 2012, 11:42:33 AM »
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thought i have no camera that has screws on the hotshoe.

I think they are always hidden under a plate.


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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #220 on: July 21, 2012, 11:59:47 AM »
Who is this camera geared towards? Point and shooters that want to feel like they have a small dsrl?

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #221 on: July 21, 2012, 12:20:42 PM »
Who is this camera geared towards? Point and shooters that want to feel like they have a small dsrl?

People who do't want to lug around 100lbs of camera gear to take pictures that aren't noisy and lacking in quality.

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #222 on: July 21, 2012, 12:31:43 PM »
Who is this camera geared towards? Point and shooters that want to feel like they have a small dsrl?

Most P&S owners up-grade to smart phones. Also some professional sports shooters are up-grading to smart phones http://www.petapixel.com/2012/03/06/instagram-portraits-of-the-yankees-shot-inside-a-bathroom-turned-studio/ :) :)

Sony has sold a lot of NEX 5n cameras, many of them to Canon DSLR owners. The Canon EOS M is about the same size and has many of the same features (or the same lack of features), so maybe it is aimed at Canon owners who also have Sony NEX 5n cameras ;)

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #222 on: July 21, 2012, 12:31:43 PM »

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #223 on: July 21, 2012, 12:43:41 PM »
I forgot to mention. What if this camera is jpg only?!


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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #224 on: July 21, 2012, 12:45:29 PM »
joke?

No it's not a joke. You are actually looking at the beginnings of the future of DSLR's.

Why do I say that? Simple. The only reason for the mirror is to bounce the image into the viewfinder so that the photographer can see exactly what they are taking a photo of. (Focus, DOF, etc...)

Now enter the world of mirrorless cameras. The back LCD acts as the viewfinder and for now they are large and cumbersome. Given advances in technology and the speed at which it is advancing, soon we will see LCD screens small enough AND high enough of resolution and brightness to act in place of our current DSLR viewfinders. Or it may be some sort of digital-optical viewfinder... who knows? But this is the start of it.

There will be added benefits too, higher FPS (no mirror to "slow" the camera down), camera bodies that do not have a shutter mechanism to wear out and reduced costs.

The DSLR won't be around forever, it will eventually be replaced by some other new technology and I believe that the mirrorless camera is the direction this is all heading.

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #224 on: July 21, 2012, 12:45:29 PM »