Canon EOS M Specs

[EOBeav]

I guess I'll jump into the waters in this thread. Is this camera for people who want--but can't afford--a pricey rangefinder, a la Leica?

Who'd ever care about M9 as there's no-built in flash at all? 

Lots. Built in (on camera) flash is considered an entry level feature for many people.

[marekjoz]

I guess I'll jump into the waters in this thread. Is this camera for people who want--but can't afford--a pricey rangefinder, a la Leica?

Who'd ever care about M9 as there's no-built in flash at all? 

Lots. Built in (on camera) flash is considered an entry level feature for many people.

ok, I'll edit my post:

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      Who'd ever care about M9 as there's no-built in flash at all? 
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[marekjoz]

This camera is pointless without a built in flash.

Once you attach an accessory flash it is no longer compact, totally defeats the purpose.

Will be sticking with the GF1.

Is the built in flash useful in your GF1?

The built in flash was used constantly on my Contax T3, my Canon S70, G9, S95 and used nearly every night on my GF1. Really can't live with out it.

I'm fine with my "flashless" 1Ds3 and 5D2... but neither are intended to be pocketable. Popping on the 580EX2 just makes an already massive camera a little bigger, I'm fine with that.

Jizzz, you lucky night wild animal
But seriously speaking I think it really depends on one's needs. I - for instance - not too often make pictures in the night, except the moon, sometimes. In such a case even 580ex2 nor even one paired with 430ex2 won't help a lot (or I just didn't notice it)
Seriously again, that's obvious, that it's always better to have even a led flash than nothing, but just for me it wouldn't be so crucial.

[EOBeav]

I guess I'll jump into the waters in this thread. Is this camera for people who want--but can't afford--a pricey rangefinder, a la Leica?

Who'd ever care about M9 as there's no-built in flash at all? 

Lots. Built in (on camera) flash is considered an entry level feature for many people.

ok, I'll edit my post:

<sarcasm>
      Who'd ever care about M9 as there's no-built in flash at all? 
</sarcasm>

+1 

[maxxevv]

For those who don't get this camera, let me suggest that we may not understand the generational and cultural differences.

For old American guys like me, a viewfinder is non-negotiable. But for many people, especially the young, who shoot mostly with smartphones, the idea of sticking your eye up against the back of the camera is equally foreign and unnatural.

Over the last couple of years, I've often scratched my head at some of Canon's product announcements. But, I've also learned that they seldom get the market wrong. I expect this one to be a big winner.

That sums up very nicely what seems to be happening indeed.

Canon has proven time and again that they are masters of the 'long game'. And they probably have a road map for things 3~5 years down the line for this too.

[gtog]

I find all this about the EOS M very intriguing even if I am not likely to get one right away.

Seems this type of camera may eventually replace the T3/1100D cameras.

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[Woody]

Glad to see an APS-C sensor for this camera. I won't get one now but once Canon has fixed their low ISO dynamic range problems, I shall gladly replace my ancient 450D with this tiny package (complete with the tiny 22 f/2 lens).

[Woody]

That sums up very nicely what seems to be happening indeed.

Canon has proven time and again that they are masters of the 'long game'. And they probably have a road map for things 3~5 years down the line for this too.

You are right. They have proven the web-based self-appointed smart-Alex camera critics wrong over and over and over again. Digital Rebel cameras too small to be handheld? The 5D and 5D2 cameras will be major failures? 18 MP APS-C sensors too densely packed? Pfffft... what do web based self-appointed critics know? 

[Daniel Flather]

It's interesting how many photos this toy can do on one battery. Assuming it's pocket size, the battery won't be big. It will run in live view mode for all the time and if you put bigger EF lens onto it, the same battery has to run AF and sometimes IS as well.

Yes, with the battery and SD card the camera's weight increases by 36 grams.

If the price is right with the 22mm, this would be a great camera for family events where a DSLR is too bulky, e.g., day trip to the beach, family events, ect.

[funkboy]

Let's hope it's priced more like the new 40mm pancake than the 24/28 IS...

[elflord]

Living in a "tourist city" (Melbourne) I cannot tell you how many DSLR users I see using only liveview to shoot.  For me, I want to be able to brace the camera properly, and an eye-level viewfinder is pretty critical for that.  That said, I never use the VF on a G-series, because it is a piece of cr@p.

I have a cheap P&S that I let my two year old daughter play with. She's used to see me with either a Rebel or 5DMkII,  so she "uses" the P&S by turning it back to front and putting her eye to the lens. For some reason your post reminded me of this.

[swrightgfx]

I guess I'll jump into the waters in this thread. Is this camera for people who want--but can't afford--a pricey rangefinder, a la Leica?

I'd say no, as it neither has a rangefinder or the looks. If a pro version of this had a rangefinder, however, I'd be right on it, as I like focussing in that way moreso than with a reflex mirror.

[bdunbar79]

Anybody going to get one to try out?  It's fairly cheap, $799.

[swrightgfx]

Gizmodo have a small write-up: http://gizmodo.com/5928129/canon-eos-m-finally-a-tiny-camera-designed-to-slurp-hd-video-that-slays

[gtog]

An FD adapter might be interesting too, though at these price points I'd want it to be fully functional controlling apertures.

G