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marekjoz

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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #120 on: August 01, 2012, 03:51:09 AM »
An HDSLR video user's wish list for this new FF:

1) On Screen Audio Levels / Level Control (This should be doable)
2) Headphone Jack (I doubt there will be a headphone jack)
3) No Moire/Jello in Video Mode (?)
4) Price Tag $1999

Question for the experts: With a digic 5 processor, does that mean no moire or jello issues in video mode like the mkIII?


There is still jello good visible in 5d3. Here is a comparison to nex7 
Rolling shutter jello comparison: Canon 5D mark III, 5Dmk3, vs Sony Nex-7 Small | Large


Nex has smaller sensor but jello comparable, which is a great thing for canon. 1dc and 1dx also have rolling shutter easy to see. Maybe C300? If you want to shoot airscrews in action, I think not many CMOS cameras would help you in this area :) I'm rather sure it won't be an entry level FF, which might be just comparable to 5d3.
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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #120 on: August 01, 2012, 03:51:09 AM »

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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #121 on: August 01, 2012, 06:38:25 AM »
Canon may make the entry level FF to be NO video cappability. Then it will really distinguish it from any other FF.

As long as this means that there is a weaker aa filter than on the 5d3 = sharper pictures: Go ahead, Canon! But realistically, I don't think they'd cut video completely since this is one of the areas Canon has the edge in - and a body with swivel screen but w/o video sounds a bit strange.

+1 to both!

A non-video FF with weak AA filter and a 5D3 sensor and capabilities (with NO swivel screen) would be the my dream camera  ::)

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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #122 on: August 01, 2012, 11:54:27 AM »
+1 to both!

A non-video FF with weak AA filter and a 5D3 sensor and capabilities (with NO swivel screen) would be the my dream camera  ::)

I would be happy just with stills as you. But lets be realistic, I doubt that Canon would introduce "stills only" camera. No swivel screen is very real, I think :) Like I said before, I would be happy with 7D/5D Mk II-like body (mag-alloy body and partial sealing), same video (or little better then) 5D Mk II, 7D metring, 7D AF and good ISO to 6400. Anything more would be a plus.
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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #123 on: August 02, 2012, 06:11:43 AM »
I think that Canon is sending/would send quiet clear message:
  • Want good high ISO, FF, good AF, partially sealed body for 2000 USD ? - get entry FF
  • Want speed (fps), reach, good AF and ws body ? - get 7D (7D Mk II in future)
  • Want top AF, good high ISO and decent speed ? - get 5D Mk III
  • Want good high ISO, good AF, high fps ? - get entry FF and 7D (7D Mk II in future)
  • Want top AF, best ISO, best sealing, fastest body - all in one ? - get 1D-X

Let me add one thing you're missing :

  • Want high-res & high DR ? - suffer and die
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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #124 on: August 02, 2012, 07:51:40 AM »
Let me add one thing you're missing :

  • Want high-res & high DR ? - suffer and die

 ;D right now you are right. There is no visible improvement of DR in current Canon sensors.

But, it might be improved with "rumored" high MPx body. Ive heard everything from 32 MPx, 45 MPx to 47 MPx. According to rumors posted here and on NL it is possible that such body could come in 2013.
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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #125 on: August 07, 2012, 01:58:55 AM »
I will be happy with

DSLR - ASP-H senor and 18 MPx or 22 MPx
Design - closer to 7D or to the 5D3
AF system - why not closer to the 1D3/4
7D metring
FPS - may be 5, it will be better than my 450D
51200 max ISO with a nice level at 12800
Price - under 2200 USD ~ 2000 €


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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #125 on: August 07, 2012, 01:58:55 AM »