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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2012, 11:01:24 AM »
Its interesting that the framerate is only 3.9fps with that Digic5+ (if any of these are true of course). I'd love to see at least 5.
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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2012, 11:01:24 AM »

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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2012, 11:05:24 AM »
that is what i am talking about in another thread of new canon entry level full frame.  if this rumors becomes true, i think canon will receive massive orders in the future.  another thing is that canon must ensure that the build quality of body must match 7D.

ways to keep loyalty customers to stay with canon.  imo, we do not need high megapixel like nikon d800, it is only good for people who takes pictures, crops them later...


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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2012, 11:08:41 AM »
Its interesting that the framerate is only 3.9fps with that Digic5+ (if any of these are true of course). I'd love to see at least 5.

They could cripple it down to 3.9 fps or so. 5D Mk III fps is 6 so 5 will be too close. But it will be nice to have 5 fps.
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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2012, 11:13:09 AM »
Its interesting that the framerate is only 3.9fps with that Digic5+ (if any of these are true of course). I'd love to see at least 5.

They could cripple it down to 3.9 fps or so. 5D Mk III fps is 6 so 5 will be too close. But it will be nice to have 5 fps.

It's one of parameters to be set by Canon rather than hardware restriction. They set it according to the marketing policy.
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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2012, 11:16:50 AM »
That is really exciting.  I'm looking for an upgrade to my 5D and/or 40D.  The only thing I suspect is that the $2000 price tag will be more like $2500 at launch.

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Well I see your point  :)

Unless...Canon decides to discontinue 5D Mk II, lower the price to sell remaining Mk II bodies and then sell "entry level FF" for about 2000 USD. They wont sell too much Mk II bodies when this FF will hit market (with body build like 7D).

So I can see 2 scenarios:
  • Canon discontinuing 5D Mk II and selling remaing for less, they will get those money on new bodies
  • 5D Mk II not discontinued for a while and "new FF" for 2500 USD as you stated, then discontinuing 5D Mk II and lowering price for "new FF"

I hope for first scenario  ;)

this is what i guess... manufacturing costs of overhead would be larger for canon to keep 5D Mark II in production; therefore, it will probably be discontinued for new entry level full frame coming in.  however, it still depends on new entry level full frame real specs and its quality comparing to 5D Mark II.

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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2012, 11:34:48 AM »
I want this camera now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Waiting for a new cheap FF for a while now,....

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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2012, 11:38:50 AM »
this is what i guess... manufacturing costs of overhead would be larger for canon to keep 5D Mark II in production; therefore, it will probably be discontinued for new entry level full frame coming in.  however, it still depends on new entry level full frame real specs and its quality comparing to 5D Mark II.

Yes and this is why discontinuing 5D Mk II makes sense to me. I think that it was Canons cash cow for a long period of time - now its time to introduce something new that will take Mk IIs place. Seems like a win for Canon and also for us users (if body build quality is the same, better AF - 7D-like and other specs mentioned becomes true).

I can imagine that it could have build in flash, external flash controll (like 7D) or build-in RT transmitter (this could force users to start thinking about 600EX-RT)...but...only my speculations for now.

We have to wait couple of weeks longer. Im sure that something new will surface in 2-3 weeks  :)
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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2012, 11:38:50 AM »

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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2012, 12:09:56 PM »

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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2012, 12:13:04 PM »
I want this camera now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Waiting for a new cheap FF for a while now,....

I want it too  ;D A lot of us do (at least I think  ;D )

...but you know, camera is not even announced yet and there are already complains about "old" tech used and high price (compared to rumored D600 price) and not enough "speced" (in comparison to D600 again).

If rumored specs about this - lets say 6D - becomes true product with AFMA, C1, C2, C3 and  <= 2000 USD price - Im fully in and I wont complain  :)

Anyway I still like my 450D. Yes it has 4 years old tech inside (or even older), but I like it and can use it up to its limits to get most out of it  :)
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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2012, 12:16:44 PM »
I want this camera now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Waiting for a new cheap FF for a while now,....

I want it too  ;D A lot of us do (at least I think  ;D )

...but you know, camera is not even announced yet and there are already complains about "old" tech used and high price (compared to rumored D600 price) and not enough "speced" (in comparison to D600 again).

If rumored specs about this - lets say 6D - becomes true product with AFMA, C1, C2, C3 and  <= 2000 USD price - Im fully in and I wont complain  :)

Anyway I still like my 450D. Yes it has 4 years old tech inside (or even older), but I like it and can use it up to its limits to get most out of it  :)
I want this camera now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Waiting for a new cheap FF for a while now,....

seems like a lot of people want this camera, canon you can't go wrong on this one now!

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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2012, 12:23:31 PM »
seems like a lot of people want this camera, canon you can't go wrong on this one now!

I agree, they cant go wrong  :) A lot of 5Dc, xxD, xxxD, xxxxD users would be teased by this FF (sooner or later).

But success of this camera will depend on price. If it will be set properly then it could take 5D Mk II place among Canon-ists (especially with 5D Mk III price above 3000 USD) and ofc as Canons cash cow (as 5D Mk II currently is). So it could be a WIN for both sides, Canon and users.
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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2012, 01:02:50 PM »
imo, we do not need high megapixel like nikon d800, it is only good for people who takes pictures, crops them later...

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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2012, 01:07:59 PM »
imo, we do not need high megapixel like nikon d800, it is only good for people who takes pictures, crops them later...

This forum's getting more fun and fun everyday!

Indeed  ;D Where aro those countless and endless discussions about 5D Mk III not on par with D800 ?

...but, Im sure Canon will announce high MPx body. Maybe even 45 or 47 MPx. This camera will be announced when it will be ready - my guess is that it is still under development. Maybe its a wise decision to announce it after D800, check all possible configurations, tweak it and bring another succesful product  8)
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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2012, 01:07:59 PM »

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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2012, 01:11:10 PM »
This has me very excited, but a little worried at the same time.


Without a doubt this will be my next camera,  I've held off on getting the 5D Mark II because I don't want to risk it with the AF system for shooting gigs. I stupidly bought into the 60D years ago and am now stuck with a bunch of SD cards, it'd be amazing (for me) if this new FF camera used SD cards but I have a feeling it won't.

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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2012, 01:29:35 PM »
This has me very excited, but a little worried at the same time.


Without a doubt this will be my next camera,  I've held off on getting the 5D Mark II because I don't want to risk it with the AF system for shooting gigs. I stupidly bought into the 60D years ago and am now stuck with a bunch of SD cards, it'd be amazing (for me) if this new FF camera used SD cards but I have a feeling it won't.

So you are exactly like me, Ive held off on getting Mk II because of AF. Im shooting a lot of gigs and DJs/club stuff - so 7D-like AF would be really helpful. This new FF seems like a good "walkaround" camera for me.

Well, there are CF-SD adapters - so nothing to worry about. You can find adapter on ebay for around 18 USD. As a 450D user Ive got 2x 8GB SD and one 16 GB microSD, so a lot of space - I can see your point.

EDIT - ofc, CF card are faster then SD cards, so if you want to shoot in RAW and in burst mode - with such adapter your card will limit you in terms of speed (mb/s). With 600x CF card you get a lot faster speed then with any SD (fastest SD - class 10 - 10 mb, CF UDMA 6 - 133 mb).
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Re: Another Spec List for the Entry Level Full Frame EOS
« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2012, 01:29:35 PM »