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5D II or wait for new entry level FF camera
kennephoto:
Funny, I'm feeling the same way as well! I'm glad that I will be able to have a full frame option instead of just 5d3 and a soon to be discontinued. Might be nice to have full frame options since theres many apsc options! And thanks for starting this thread so I didn't have to hehe!
syder:
--- Quote from: HurtinMinorKey on July 27, 2012, 12:28:35 PM --- I had a 5dII, and there are a couple of things it does better than the gh2, but overall the gh2 is a better camera for video, and a whole lot cheaper.
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Really? For filming what exactly? Landscapes... then maybe. In which case why use an slr at all? The only advantage the gh2 has over the 5diii is resolution - which is a non-issue for 98% of what you should be doing with DSLR video. I guess it has autofocus, but the OP said he was a pro cameraman, in which case there is no way he should be using that as a feature (in 10 years of working as a cameraman and teaching cinematography at a university I don't think I've ever used autofocus, i certainly teach students never to use it). It might be useful for filming your kids, but professionals can pull focus.
For low light, colour, and aesthetics the 5diii is in a different league to the gh2. There's a reason that films like the Avengers used Canon DSLR's rather than GH2s to compliment the Alexa footage. Clients love the fact that it looks a lot like film. Rather than the the video-tastic GH2.
Marsu42:
--- Quote from: aceofspaide on July 27, 2012, 11:12:11 AM ---Your Magic Lantern point is one I thought about a lot, I currently have never used it but I am definitely planning on getting the new version in August for my T2i to try it out. That may effect my decision because if I decide ML is something I can't live without then it will be the 5DII for me.
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+1 ...
Video = 5d2 because it runs magic lantern. Unless you're very concerned with occasional aliasing (fixed on the 5d3) or have to have a swivel screen (rumored on the new entry ff). The hdr video functionality alone of ml is priceless, and the stable v2.3 is out now if you donate some bucks to Alex. You can afford that if you're shopping for a 5d2, can't you :-p ?
papa-razzi:
If a new entry level FF comes out with similar IQ to 5DII, better AF, swivel screen, pop up flash, perhaps not as solid in build quality for $2,000 USD, and the 5DII is discontinued .....
What happens to the price of the 5DII on the used market?
If it drops to $1,500 or less, it might be worth waiting even to get a 5DII.
paul13walnut5:
You have a T2i and a 7D at your disposal. There is no reason not to wait...
You mention you already have canon lenses, are they all EF full frame lenses? EF-s will not mount or operate on a 5D2 or any likely full frame camera to come.
The 5D2 is a great proven work horse, but it is three year old tech now. It's not obselete, but if you want to run the camera for at least a couple of years, then before long it's five year old, six year old tech.
Things like the 4GB barrier have been broken, headphone socket added, bit rate and temporal GOP patterns have more control. Even if image quality hasn't praticularly jumped on.
In short, it would probably make more sense to go to a camera with the newer better video tech.
Finally I would also say that I prefer shooting on a cropped sensor to a full frame, focusing is that tiny bit less critical and the cropped sensor canons stand up a little more to pans before the wobble kicks in.
The T2i is a perfectly decent camera, I don't know how much a 5D2 would really add to the party... in video terms at least. I would be looking up the food chain a bit, or see what any new models bring - headphone socket, all-i and longer record times are not as exciting headline features as megapixels and AF patterns, but for the video guy or gal they are features that are worth holding out for. You already have access to and own good video cameras on a par with a 5D2.
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