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1D & 1Ds Rumors [CR1]
« on: April 08, 2011, 06:09:33 AM »

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[NL] posted a link to a fun DPR rumor. I don’t post them often, but I’ve heard similar sort of stuff previously.


heard from canon themselves september release full frame 28mp, 10fps, digic v, new auto focus, 1.3 crop mode. 1ds replacement is into medium format around 42mp in a more compact body to competition set for end of year with 5dIII at 24.1mp and 7 fps


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1D & 1Ds Rumors [CR1]
« on: April 08, 2011, 06:09:33 AM »

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Re: 1D & 1Ds Rumors [CR1]
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2011, 06:21:37 AM »
This rumor is what it is but to me it sounds plausible.

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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2011, 06:38:04 AM »
I think the digic V is almost certain. And it's certain to trickle down into their other models. It fits with a 5D3 that does more MP at higher FPS. I wonder how hard it's gonna be to get a 5D3 around launch. I feel like people have been waiting and saving up for this camera for a long time.

Probably be a nice time to grab a 5D2. :)
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Re: 1D & 1Ds Rumors [CR1]
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2011, 06:42:34 AM »
A stretch... a long stretch.

Where are all those MF lenses to go with that MF sensor?

The 5D III bit seems a little high on the FPS too, but I guess its not impossible.

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Re: 1D & 1Ds Rumors [CR1]
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2011, 07:02:05 AM »
"Ffull frame 28mp, 10fps, digic v, new auto focus, 1.3 crop mode.  " One camera to rule them all ? no more a 1d/ds split.

"1ds replacement is into medium format around 42mp in a more compact body to competition" keeping the series looking like canon and leaving the 1d to be the new 5d?
Will Canon be able to share a lens mount with an existing provider to give them faster access to the market?

Is this the 7D with a FF sensor - 5dIII at 24.1mp and 7 fps ?

Damm this sounds like an expensive wish list.

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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2011, 07:47:19 AM »
A stretch... a long stretch.

Agreed.  These are 'wishes' not 'rumors'. 

Where are all those MF lenses to go with that MF sensor?

Well, the L-series TS-E lenses have a big enough image circle for a MF sensor (provided you don't apply tilt or shift).   :P
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Re: 1D & 1Ds Rumors [CR1]
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2011, 09:19:39 AM »
So you think Canon may be thinking of a compromise? Using existing lenses on a medium format sensor? It seems a curiously warped decision if so. Neither fish nor fowl. 40MP I'm all in favour of provided its on a 36 x 24mm frame, but 40MP on a medium frame sensor does not even match the best existing MF offerings. If Canon are serious about medium format then they need to do the job properly, with a range of MF lenses and a body with maybe 80 or 100mp.

Of course time will tell, but on the face of it this news has left me a little under-whelmed. I hope this is Canon testing consumer reaction and not a serious suggestion.   

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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2011, 09:26:19 AM »
Personally, i couldn't really care if Canon brings out another 1.3x crop or full frame 1D series camera. For me, the 5D range is my interest. I'm currently using a pair of 5DII's and I'm getting great results with them. My cameras are getting close to three years old, so my reason for upgrading to the eventual 5DIII is purely a reliability reason

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Re: 1D & 1Ds Rumors [CR1]
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2011, 09:43:08 AM »
A stretch... a long stretch.

Where are all those MF lenses to go with that MF sensor?

The 5D III bit seems a little high on the FPS too, but I guess its not impossible.

I think the rumorer meant the MP count is into "MF territory" at 42 MP, not that there's actually a MF sensor.

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Re: 1D & 1Ds Rumors [CR1]
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2011, 09:56:45 AM »
I think the rumorer meant the MP count is into "MF territory" at 42 MP, not that there's actually a MF sensor.
Good point Sir! In that case its only 2 camera's, both long expected, and no new lense sizes needs just better resolving power.
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Re: 1D & 1Ds Rumors [CR1]
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2011, 10:02:42 AM »
A stretch... a long stretch.

Where are all those MF lenses to go with that MF sensor?

The 5D III bit seems a little high on the FPS too, but I guess its not impossible.

I think the rumorer meant the MP count is into "MF territory" at 42 MP, not that there's actually a MF sensor.

Agreed.
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Re: 1D & 1Ds Rumors [CR1]
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2011, 10:03:28 AM »
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I think the rumorer meant the MP count is into "MF territory" at 42 MP, not that there's actually a MF sensor.

Absolutely.

I don't know about the release dates, but the specs sound plausible.

The full frame with 1.3 crop option would ease the transition away from the 1.3 crop sensor, which is an orphan in terms of lenses.

A high megapixel flagship body satisfies the commercial pros that need maximum resolution and maximum size. Since sensor size is a major contributor to the cost of a body, this allows Canon to hold down costs while giving commercial photographers medium-format quality in a DSLR body.

No real opinion on the 5D III. Sounds reasonable.

Bottom line, there is enough logic in this rumor that it could be accurate, but then again, most of it is just common sense and could be imputed by anyone following the market.

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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2011, 10:23:13 AM »
I am just wondering why they never speculate on ISO range? I would love to know this little detail.... :(

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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2011, 10:23:13 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2011, 10:34:25 AM »
I am just wondering why they never speculate on ISO range? I would love to know this little detail.... :(

There's a big difference between the available ISO range and the acceptable ISO range.  My 7D can be set to ISO 12,800...but it gets too noisy for critical work above ISO 800 - thats nearly 4 stops that aren't useful.  It doesn't help of Canon adds even more range - they need to expand the useful range, and expand the dynamic range across the board.
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2011, 10:37:10 AM »
ISO range won't provide any information on the 'useable' ISO range.

The 1D sounds like direct competition to a D3X (or their update). I still don't see the 5D having 7fps as it will be taking sales from the 1D and even the 7D.

Sounds interesting though

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Re: 1D & 1Ds Rumors [CR1]
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2011, 10:37:10 AM »