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Re: New Tilt-Shifts in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2012, 10:07:31 AM »

- the sharpest Canon lens is 100L and I doubt TS-E 90 can beat that


How did you dream that up?

The 100L isn't a bad lens, but as far as being Canon's sharpest, it wouldn't make the top 5, and maybe not even the top 10...
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Re: New Tilt-Shifts in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2012, 10:12:42 AM »
I'm not going to say I like my 45 and 90 tse lenses and will welcome the upgrades(there are most definitely CA problems), however more importantly I would rather see Canon bring out a 35mm TSE,   the 45mm does not seem to be a useful range for the architectural spaces I worked in over the years whereas I am always wishing I had a 35mm tse that compared to the new 24mm.  And while the 90 is ok, again if it was either an 75mm (preferable) or 110 mm tse it would have more practical architectural use in my humble opinion

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« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2012, 11:03:36 AM »
I would rather see Canon bring out a 35mm TSE,   the 45mm does not seem to be a useful range for the architectural spaces I worked in over the years whereas I am always wishing I had a 35mm tse that compared to the new 24mm.  And while the 90 is ok, again if it was either an 75mm (preferable) or 110 mm tse it would have more practical architectural use in my humble opinion
Sounds like you need a TS-E zoom  :P

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Re: New Tilt-Shifts in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2012, 12:37:07 PM »
Sounds like you need a TS-E zoom  :P

TS-Z 24-85mm f/4.5L.  Sign me up.   ;)
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« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2012, 02:10:19 PM »
@JEFF ->that is exactly what i dreaming of too..

TSe17, TSe24II, the surprising TSe35, schneider PC50mm, and the new TSe90
nice... i love dreaming..

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Re: New Tilt-Shifts in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2012, 02:11:33 PM »
I'm not going to say I like my 45 and 90 tse lenses and will welcome the upgrades(there are most definitely CA problems), however more importantly I would rather see Canon bring out a 35mm TSE,   the 45mm does not seem to be a useful range for the architectural spaces I worked in over the years whereas I am always wishing I had a 35mm tse that compared to the new 24mm.  And while the 90 is ok, again if it was either an 75mm (preferable) or 110 mm tse it would have more practical architectural use in my humble opinion
I would suggest using crop cameras. After all, buying an additional crop body is not any more expensive than buying another tilt shift lens! I use a NEX with the 24II to get to 36mm, and with the 45 to get to 68mm. Or if you stick with a Canon 1.6x body those TSE lenses become 38mm and 72mm.

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« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2012, 03:10:59 PM »
...if you stick with a Canon 1.6x body...

Then you'd better have small fingers.  The popup flash protrusion makes knob access a real challenge, even with the smaller knob that Canon provides for that purpose.
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Re: New Tilt-Shifts in 2013? [CR1]
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« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2012, 05:42:20 PM »
 
good input privatebydesign
but I m afraid of increased distortion not to mention CA, sharpness..
when using the 1.4 converter.

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« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2012, 11:21:45 PM »
Just stick the TSE-24 on a 1D4 or ff gives the benefit without drawbacks or reduced IQ. Even an APS-C at iso 100 works OK too

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« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2012, 08:12:20 AM »
I wish canon would make a lens foot for the TS lenses, so it would be easier to make perfect panoramas, when the lens would stay in exactly the same place and only the camera would be moved.

Canon doesn't, but Hartblei does (not cheap, though - but then, Canon's wouldn't be, either...).

425 EUR + S&H? Shish!

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« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2012, 08:55:00 AM »

thanks privatbydesign.
until now my choise would have been the pentax 645 FA 35mm with the zörk adapter!
but now you´ve made me very curious about the combination of the TSe24II with the 1.4converter!!

I need to do a test and compare the pentax-solution vs. the canon with 1.4.
and Im very curiouse about that !

thanks for your hint.

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Re: New Tilt-Shifts in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2012, 12:24:14 PM »

hej pbd.
I totally agree with your opinions.
and your attitude you are doing business. you are right
if you are saying that the customer doesnt care and wouldnt even recognize any
difference we are talking about.
BUT actually I for me do care...

I loved my large format camera and my super angulon XL 58, 90mm and the 120mm
and the quality they delivered. the change from analog to digital 7years ago was not very easy
to me because of weakness of bodies, wideangle lenses, ...
I do interieur photography too and I cant serve my customers any distorted picture!!
some of my customers are even used to get MF-photographs, thats why I cant make a compromise, for example
use crop-cameras, zoomlenses,..
since the TSe24II and TSe17 came out Im quite confident and almost very happy with my gear because
of their excellent quality!
Everytime I use my 17er Im amazed about its capabilities!
and the 24II is even superior.
thats why Im searching a perfect and suitable 35mm!

for your pro example: Annie Leibovitz.
i saw a video (15years ago) where her assistants were loading her filmbacks of her RZ67. and there were about
25 filmbacks on the table!!! at least 25?!? if you need 4 its much...
not to say anything about the light she was using for that shooting.






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Re: New Tilt-Shifts in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2012, 03:38:03 PM »

thanks privatbydesign.
until now my choise would have been the pentax 645 FA 35mm with the zörk adapter!
but now you´ve made me very curious about the combination of the TSe24II with the 1.4converter!!

I need to do a test and compare the pentax-solution vs. the canon with 1.4.
and Im very curiouse about that !

thanks for your hint.

Get a 1.3 crop body instead of the 1.4

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« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2012, 04:57:13 PM »
Get a 1.3 crop body instead of the 1.4
Why? A 1.4 TC is thousands of dollars cheaper and much lighter and the fractional dip in IQ isn't noticeable even in big prints.

You keep saying the same thing, "use a 1D MkIV", "get a 1.3 crop body", there is absolutely no need to.

The TC does cost you a stop that the crop body doesn't.  It's a trade between the crop factor, noise (affected by the generation of the sensor and pixel density), etc.

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Re: New Tilt-Shifts in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2012, 05:17:14 PM »
Get a 1.3 crop body instead of the 1.4
Why? A 1.4 TC is thousands of dollars cheaper and much lighter and the fractional dip in IQ isn't noticeable even in big prints.

You keep saying the same thing, "use a 1D MkIV", "get a 1.3 crop body", there is absolutely no need to.

Low light benefits, DOF and IQ are 3 reasons that I can think of

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Re: New Tilt-Shifts in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2012, 05:17:14 PM »