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Estimate the price of the 'expected bodies...
« on: April 08, 2011, 11:23:59 AM »
Hi,

i know all the rumors about the new bodies, 5D mk3 being the one im interested in most, and i know features will make a difference on price, but based on history, whats the likely price for the new bodies, 1D, 5D, etc.

I would imagine Canon are more likely to start with a RRP for a new body and work backwards, thinking, right what features can we get in for that price.

Taking the 5DMK2 as an example it started life at about £2300 and now is about £1700 (according to Camera Price Buster history)

So the new 5DMK3 has to be over £2300 right?

Sorry that funny symbol is UK pounds, to our friends over the pond.

Get your estimate in and we'll see whos closest when the time comes!!
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Re: Estimate the price of the 'expected bodies...
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2011, 11:31:53 AM »
I'm budgeting for $2899/body $3899/kit at release.

That's assuming it's accompanied by the rumored 24-105L II.  If it's not a new version of the 24-105L I'd put the kit at $3699.

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Re: Estimate the price of the 'expected bodies...
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2011, 11:35:59 AM »
I have a feeling the 5D3 will be pricier than last time.  I'm sure they will have some reason for a higher price than that (~$3000 body only anyone?)  Not only that, but the Japanese economy will take its toll also.

Don't think anything too wild will happen, but if there is some sort of unexpected video capability, expect more expense, although, I can't imagine them doing anything too crazy with video unless they release a different 5D like camera altogether for video

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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2011, 11:41:10 AM »
what was the dollar price originally and now? of the 5Dmk2 (unfortually a direct exchange rate doesnt work for us, we brits always pay more.

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Re: Estimate the price of the 'expected bodies...
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2011, 11:48:59 AM »
I think the original was $2699 USD.

The going price now is $2499, but that's in light of recent events.

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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2011, 12:14:35 PM »
I certainly don't have any more information than anyone else on this site, but one new feature I did hear about on the 5D3 is broadcast quality video.  I don't expect a new 24-105 II as the kit lens.  Canon usually releases a new lens with most camera body releases.  I think the new lens will be the infamous 24-70 II with IS and lighter.  Don't be wishing for a bargain price and given the feature set of this camera, I think the kit price will break $4K. :-((
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Re: Estimate the price of the 'expected bodies...
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2011, 12:36:41 PM »
I highly doubt 24-70/2.8 IS or non-IS would ever be a kit lens.  It is too specialized, and too expensive.

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Re: Estimate the price of the 'expected bodies...
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2011, 01:13:08 PM »
I highly doubt 24-70/2.8 IS or non-IS would ever be a kit lens.  It is too specialized, and too expensive.
Expensive, yes.  Specialized?  I don't know about that.  There sure are a lot of people that want one for it to be only for special purposes.

Now the 14mm 2.8, 50mm 1.2 I see as specialized lenses.

EDIT: That being said, I don't think its a kit lens candidate either.
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Re: Estimate the price of the 'expected bodies...
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2011, 02:09:40 PM »
I think we pretty much agree, but I'll elaborate more, mainly for others.

The choice between the 24-70/2.8 & 24-105/4 is probably one of the most difficult for the serious amateur or higher; generally someone who has the need, desire, and means to have multiple $1k+ lenses.  They are both outstanding, with their own strengths, and weaknesses, and a huge area of overlap.  That's what makes it so incredibly hard to choose, and why some even chose both.

Now look at the target market for a kit.  It's either someone that will only have a single lens near term (probably the majority, even on a higher end body like the 5DII), or someone who would like to add that particular lens to their collection at a significant discount (would really only apply to the 5DII, has anyone anywhere actually longed for the 18-55 or 18-135?  I would guess not.).

For the group that will likely only own one lens, there is little argument against the fact that the 24-105 would be superior in almost every case.  For the group that want to add the lens to their collection (or sell), it would be largely irrelevant unless it was one that they already own.

So I believe the substitution of the 24-70/2.8 would really only benefit those with more specific lens needs (they need that extra stop), to the (arguable) detriment to the rest of kit buyers.

The offering of multiple kits, one for each, would obviously render my argument moot. However I would think it unlikely, and don't see any advantage to Canon to do so.
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2011, 02:34:30 PM »
The offering of multiple kits, one for each, would obviously render my argument moot. However I would think it unlikely, and don't see any advantage to Canon to do so.

The T3i, 60D, and 7D are each offered as kits bundled with one of two lenses (18-55/18-135, 18-135/18-200, or 28-135/18-135, respectively).  Given that the 5D/5DII were bundled with the 24-105mm, I bet Canon could do well offering a second kit with a 24-70/2.8 for those of us (well, for me at any rate ;) ) upgrading from a 5D/5DII who see a need for both.
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Re: Estimate the price of the 'expected bodies...
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2011, 03:22:39 PM »
The offering of multiple kits, one for each, would obviously render my argument moot. However I would think it unlikely, and don't see any advantage to Canon to do so.

The T3i, 60D, and 7D are each offered as kits bundled with one of two lenses (18-55/18-135, 18-135/18-200, or 28-135/18-135, respectively).  Given that the 5D/5DII were bundled with the 24-105mm, I bet Canon could do well offering a second kit with a 24-70/2.8 for those of us (well, for me at any rate ;) ) upgrading from a 5D/5DII who see a need for both.

I always assumed those other kits were "dealer" kits, as they're not mentioned on the Canon website.  Although the 5D kit isn't mentioned either, so I guess that shows how reliable of a source that is.

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Re: Estimate the price of the 'expected bodies...
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2011, 03:22:39 PM »