I can't speak for the 5DIII, but I find the 1D X gives me about two full stops over the 5DII in RAW high ISO shots. A little more than 1 stop directly, the rest due to better quality of noise that's more amenable to NR. So...I was ok with 3200 in the 5DII, and I'm ok with 12800 on the 1D X.