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Sigma 30mm f/1.4 or Canon 35mm f/2?
« on: August 08, 2012, 12:46:03 PM »
I'm trying to find a fast prime for my 60D that fits within the normal focal length. Right now I have a 50mm f/1.4, but it's too long for indoors use, which is going to be my main purpose for using a fast prime. I'm still keeping it for portraits, but I'd like something a good deal wider.

A 24mm would be ideal (closest to the 35mm EFL), but I can't find one on my budget that has gotten decent reviews. It seems that fast primes only start to get good around 30mm onwards.

Anyway, I've pretty much narrowed it down to the two lenses in the subject. Any opinions? Whichever one I choose, I'll be using it in situations that would require shooting wide open.

I'm also considering the Canon 28mm f/1.8, but consensus seems to be that it's pretty soft wide open.

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Sigma 30mm f/1.4 or Canon 35mm f/2?
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Re: Sigma 30mm f/1.4 or Canon 35mm f/2?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2012, 08:16:50 PM »
If you can live with f2.8 then the Canon 28mm (non IS) is an exceptional little lens for the money, same caveats as the 35mm-

Old school AFD focus
5 aperture blades (poor bokeh compared to more expensive lenses)

On the plus side, very cheap, very compact, nice and sharp, fast to focus, nice angle of view on APS-C.

If you want a 24mm then would you consider an MF lens such as the Samyang f1.4....

If you can live without AF and cope with a manual iris that closes before exposure when stopped down (that is conventional EF lenses only stop down at the point of exposure, they keep the viewfinder nice and bright to assist composition and focus) then it is a superlative lens for the money.

I haven't heard brilliant things about the sigma 30, I was on the cusp of buying one but could find no decent reviews..  all middle rated.

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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2012, 08:38:57 PM »
As I understand this might be out of your budget this time, but I just wanted to share that I picked up the 35 1.4L when I had my 60D and it matched very nice. Now I have upgraded to 5D Mkiii I am of course still very happy. But the combo 35L and 60D is very nice. If you can hold off and save up a little more I can truly recommend it.

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Re: Sigma 30mm f/1.4 or Canon 35mm f/2?
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2012, 08:45:11 PM »
As I understand this might be out of your budget this time, but I just wanted to share that I picked up the 35 1.4L when I had my 60D and it matched very nice. Now I have upgraded to 5D Mkiii I am of course still very happy. But the combo 35L and 60D is very nice. If you can hold off and save up a little more I can truly recommend it.

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Re: Sigma 30mm f/1.4 or Canon 35mm f/2?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2012, 09:27:40 PM »
I'd like to add that the Sigma 30mm is a fantastic lens for the price and that the focus issues are quite overblown. I owned the lens for several months on my XSi before moving to full frame and it was absolutely fantastic. Sigma has updated the lens somewhat recently with a new smooth outer surface and supposedly better quality control. The things I have read about the new version seem to corroborate my experiences with it.

I actually sold it to a guy who owned a 60D and it handled superbly on that body. Photozone's review is very positive; its performance on crop is much like the 35L on full frame.

Focusing any wide-aperture prime is hit or miss without AFMA, regardless of the lens brand, so I'd recommend buying from a retailer with a no-questions return policy (Amazon has been great for this in my experience). If you don't believe this point, please read this excellent series of articles on autofocus by LensRentals' Roger Cicala: http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/07/autofocus-reality-part-1-center-point-single-shot-accuracy In the absence of AFMA, a good return policy is a must before buying any wide-aperture prime you intend to shoot wide-open.

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Re: Sigma 30mm f/1.4 or Canon 35mm f/2?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2012, 11:34:59 PM »
The "vintage" EF 35 f/2 and the 24 f/2.8 are really great lenses and very affordable. The Sigma prime is APS-c only, so limiting to which bodies you can use it on.
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Re: Sigma 30mm f/1.4 or Canon 35mm f/2?
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2012, 02:35:28 AM »
My only issue with the 35mm f/2 is that it's bokeh is not so good in the presence of linear objects in the background. There's an example in the photozone review of the lens.

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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2012, 03:20:12 AM »
If you are not going to upgrade to FF, Sigma 30mm is better.  Otherwise, go with Canon 35mm.  If you decide to buy Sigma 30mm, I will suggest you buy from Amazon because you can return it without shipping charge if the lens has focus problem.  I really wonder how many people has focus issue with Sigma 30mm.  At least my and my friend's Sigma 30mm have no focus issue.
By the way, I sold the lens on CL for 350.  The resell value might be even higher than Canon lens.  There is no worry to try some lenses from Amazon because Amazon has amazing return policy.
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Re: Sigma 30mm f/1.4 or Canon 35mm f/2?
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2012, 03:50:29 AM »
I was in the same dilemma and ended up with the Canon EF 28 1.8 and I not unhappy at all, rather the contrary
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Re: Sigma 30mm f/1.4 or Canon 35mm f/2?
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2012, 04:04:50 AM »
My local camera dealer is very accommodating - letting me try various lenses on my camera body to get a 'feel' for them both indoors and outside in the street. (I'm in Auckland, New Zealand)

I'd suggest trying both lenses either at your local dealer (if possible) or rent them and judge for yourself.

Personally, I'd save up a bit longer as previously suggested and get the excellent 35L  :)

Do let us know what you decide

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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2012, 06:02:27 AM »
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My local camera dealer is very accommodating - letting me try various lenses on my camera body to get a 'feel' for them both indoors and outside in the street. (I'm in Auckland, New Zealand)

I remember those days fondly.  Treasure and use your accomadating local camera shop.  Think of the premium as a service charge..

All we have on the UK high street these days is jessops or currys, who employ warranty salespeople rather than folk who care about photography.

Internet is great for a good price, or for a used bargain.  I miss the old proper camerashops though.

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Re: Sigma 30mm f/1.4 or Canon 35mm f/2?
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2012, 10:14:22 AM »
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My local camera dealer is very accommodating - letting me try various lenses on my camera body to get a 'feel' for them both indoors and outside in the street. (I'm in Auckland, New Zealand)

I remember those days fondly.  Treasure and use your accomadating local camera shop.  Think of the premium as a service charge..

All we have on the UK high street these days is jessops or currys, who employ warranty salespeople rather than folk who care about photography.

Internet is great for a good price, or for a used bargain.  I miss the old proper camerashops though.
London Camera Exchange has quite a few branches in England.

I used to buy from Jacobs and them. Now it's just them. In Manchester, the staff are helpful.

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Re: Sigma 30mm f/1.4 or Canon 35mm f/2?
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2012, 10:26:06 AM »
I'm in Scotland, and disclosure time, worked many moons ago for the dreaded Jessops.

A few of the better guys I worked with their subsequently worked in Jacobs, which was I shop I breifly enjoyed using as a customer.

Now gone.  We have calumet, which is great but not handy.  Then its Jessops or Currys.

I agree re: LCE.  I buy used from them often. Always seem like nice folk to deal with, even though it's only usually over the phone for me.

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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2012, 12:05:47 AM »
I was facing the same decision about a year ago.  I heard about the focus issues with the Sigma, so I rented it first.

My personal experience with the Sigma lens on a 7D was that it was hit and miss with the AF.  Sometimes it hit and was one of the sharpest lenses I have used.  But I was averaging about 20% hit rate.  I rented it from Lens Rentals and I know they test out the gear, so the lens itself wasn't malfunctioning.  If I had a better experience with the lens I would have purchased one, because it was a very sharp lens.

I ended up getting the 35 f/2.  It is a solid performer.  For the money you really can't beat it.
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Re: Sigma 30mm f/1.4 or Canon 35mm f/2?
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2012, 01:24:03 AM »
I'll give a try to the 28 1.8. It is a good lens with fast and accurate AF, good bokeh and colors. It may not be the sharpest lens WO, but it is sharp enough. If you close a couple of stop it is very good.
I have had it once and sold it for the 16-35 2.8... then i sold the 16-35 to get the 28 again. Now I use it a bit less just because i got the 35 1.4 L.
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