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Re: 5D3 review: If you don't own Canon, buy the Nikon D800
« Reply #105 on: August 19, 2012, 05:55:05 AM »
What a load of crap.
Obviously a Nikon user who feels on top of the world because Nikon finally has a FF body with 1080p video - after 3+ years of the mkII already offering such an ability.
Please... Fanboys should not be publicly suggesting purchase advice.


I guess you are referring to me. Funny thing is that I don't, and never have owned any Nikon gear...I've always been a Canon shooter and I'm not one of those guys who sells all their gear simply because one generation of cameras is in favour of Nikon. But that doesn't mean that I can't recognize when Nikon for once makes a superior (at least where it matters to me) product.


It is unfortunate that the most common use for the 'higher' dynamic range of the D800 will be to recover an image - and in that respect one would simply need to improve their knowledge and technique instead of relying on a camera to produce the image they should have taken to begin with.


You pretty much nailed 99% of these kinds of posts right there.

People rely way too much on Auto everything and Post processing, instead of learning the skills you used to have to learn (back in the film days).


I guess going back to film would take care of the pattern noise that my 5D2 displays in shadows....
And why don't we start using magnesium flash again? I'm sure that'll teach us a thing or two.

I don't know ANYBODY who don't improve their images in post. Do you? What's the idea of shooting RAW then? This has nothing to do with technique or not knowing how to expose.

color, tone, SNR and the 5DmkIII performs higher than the D800 in all of them.


Eh? All tests I have seen so far seem to indicate the opposite.

25.3 bits vs. 24 bits..the D800 have a wider range of colours.
Tone? Well this is highly subjective.

SNR? Could you link to some test please that shows the Canon has a better SNR then the Nikon? I would love to see it. Everything I have seen so far points to the Nikon has a better SNR...even by a large margin in the lower ISO's:

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Re: 5D3 review: If you don't own Canon, buy the Nikon D800
« Reply #105 on: August 19, 2012, 05:55:05 AM »

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Re: 5D3 review: If you don't own Canon, buy the Nikon D800
« Reply #106 on: August 22, 2012, 04:10:06 AM »
It is unfortunate that the most common use for the 'higher' dynamic range of the D800 will be to recover an image - and in that respect one would simply need to improve their knowledge and technique instead of relying on a camera to produce the image they should have taken to begin with.

wrong
and I'm not arguing about the definition of the word

what you're calling technique is compensating for shortcomings and inadequacies in equipment

I appreciate being less limited by my equipment when such an option is available and practical. 
Technique is better applied for artistic reasons rather than to compensate for the failures of an imaging platform that has fallen behind the competition.  And that also saves me time and aggravation.

So, if you like blown out sky and cloud detail and blocked up shadows, feel free to continue to use that technique;)

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Re: 5D3 review: If you don't own Canon, buy the Nikon D800
« Reply #107 on: August 22, 2012, 07:16:15 PM »
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what you're calling technique is compensating for shortcomings and inadequacies in equipment

I appreciate being less limited by my equipment when such an option is available and practical. 
Technique is better applied for artistic reasons rather than to compensate for the failures of an imaging platform that has fallen behind the competition.  And that also saves me time and aggravation.

So, if you like blown out sky and cloud detail and blocked up shadows, feel free to continue to use that technique;)

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Re: 5D3 review: If you don't own Canon, buy the Nikon D800
« Reply #107 on: August 22, 2012, 07:16:15 PM »