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Canon PowerShot Pro1X [CR1]
« on: August 10, 2012, 10:50:27 AM »
APS-C Compact Camera?
We received a small comment that Canon will finally resurrect the “Pro” moniker for a PowerShot camera soon. The Canon PowerShot Pro1 was a very popular enthusiast compact camera that was launched in 2004.

The camera will apparently be called the Canon PowerShot Pro1X and will have the same 18mp sensor as the Canon EOS Rebel T4i/650D and EOS-M.

New source, grain of salt on this one.

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Canon PowerShot Pro1X [CR1]
« on: August 10, 2012, 10:50:27 AM »

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Re: Canon PowerShot Pro1X [CR1]
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2012, 11:18:47 AM »
I like the idea...
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Re: Canon PowerShot Pro1X [CR1]
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2012, 11:59:19 AM »
It would be weird to have both this camera and the G1X in the lineup at the same time.

In 2004, Canon announced the Pro 1 on Feb 9th and the G6 on Aug 19th. It's not impossible for both cameras to co-exist at the same time.

I am not surprised by Canon's move to introduce another APS-C compact camera. In their latest financial report:
http://www.canon.com/ir/results/2012/rslt2012q2e.pdf
they state "As for compact digital cameras, models launched this spring offering high image quality and networking capabilities have supported healthy sales growth."

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Re: Canon PowerShot Pro1X [CR1]
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2012, 12:27:26 PM »
Canon has too many High-end compact systems already. I doubt this one will amount to anything.

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Re: Canon PowerShot Pro1X [CR1]
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2012, 12:38:39 PM »
I loved the pro1 and sold a few when i worked in the camera shop, would have had one but already had dimage A2, think they would be better with a compact fast L zoom for the eos m...

The pro1 had a tiny sensor compared to the g1x and aps-c.  Would be hard to replicate range quality and size for bigger csmeras.

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Re: Canon PowerShot Pro1X [CR1]
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2012, 12:43:23 PM »
Canon has too many High-end compact systems already. I doubt this one will amount to anything.
My thoughts exactly. So they'd have a G1x that retails at $800 w a smaller sensor. The eos-m at $800 with the aps-c sensor, the t4i body at 849, and then this in that price range as well? Gonna confuse the hell out of consumers

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Re: Canon PowerShot Pro1X [CR1]
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2012, 04:04:27 PM »
Wow, I almost purchased the pro1 a little while ago. I wanted to get it because it has a L lens in it. If they include an l lens in this one, then I may actually get it.
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2012, 04:04:27 PM »

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Re: Canon PowerShot Pro1X [CR1]
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2012, 04:23:45 PM »
APS-C will be used more and more for the compact cameras and less and less for the DSLR

That is the smell of the coffee

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Re: Canon PowerShot Pro1X [CR1]
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2012, 04:56:24 PM »
Canon has too many High-end compact systems already. I doubt this one will amount to anything.

The pro1 series was and probably will be equipped with high quality L glass; none of the canon mirrorless or big sensor compact cameras has this type of lens.

Another rumor that in my opinion make sense.

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Re: Canon PowerShot Pro1X [CR1]
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2012, 05:41:21 PM »
@nicku
Can you give me a definitive definition of what uniquely constitutes L glass?
What is the common factor other than L and the red stripe?

There are non Ls that are better than Ls and there are Ls that are better than anything.

It's not aspherics or apos.  It's not flourite.  It's not weather sealing. 

(whisper this...  it's mar-ket-ing)

I have owned and will own great L glass, I'm not dissing it. 

Just the L glass bit, doesn't actually mean anything.

Doesn't stand for anything, represent, guarantee whatever.

I'm backing the small form compact high quality zoom for the Pro1 successor.

Unless it has a really tiny sensor like in the old days.  Which would make about as much sense as a pentax Q.

That is.. not much.

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Re: Canon PowerShot Pro1X [CR1]
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2012, 05:47:10 PM »
Canon has too many High-end compact systems already. I doubt this one will amount to anything.

The pro1 series was and probably will be equipped with high quality L glass; none of the canon mirrorless or big sensor compact cameras has this type of lens.

Another rumor that in my opinion make sense.

EOS M + EF Adapter + L lens  8)

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Re: Canon PowerShot Pro1X [CR1]
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2012, 06:35:34 PM »
Canon has too many High-end compact systems already. I doubt this one will amount to anything.

So?

The market for smaller consumer cameras is going to evaporate over time as more and more people use their phone and not their camera.

Thus the market evolves to a point where nobody buys or sells a simple $100 or $200 camera.

Where the money will be made is in offering people that are looking to step up from phone cameras to something else that has higher/better image quality and not all of those people want the same thing in a camera.

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Re: Canon PowerShot Pro1X [CR1]
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2012, 07:50:58 PM »
@nicku
Can you give me a definitive definition of what uniquely constitutes L glass?
What is the common factor other than L and the red stripe?

There are non Ls that are better than Ls and there are Ls that are better than anything.

It's not aspherics or apos.  It's not flourite.  It's not weather sealing. 

(whisper this...  it's mar-ket-ing)

I have owned and will own great L glass, I'm not dissing it. 

Just the L glass bit, doesn't actually mean anything.

Doesn't stand for anything, represent, guarantee whatever.

I'm backing the small form compact high quality zoom for the Pro1 successor.

Unless it has a really tiny sensor like in the old days.  Which would make about as much sense as a pentax Q.

That is.. not much.
L lenses are described as:  "these lenses use special optical technologies [such as] Ultra-low Dispersion UD glass, Super Low Dispersion glass, Fluorite elements, and Aspherical elements to truly push the optical envelope." AND they are drip proof, weather resistant, and have stone build quality.
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Re: Canon PowerShot Pro1X [CR1]
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2012, 07:50:58 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2012, 09:42:42 PM »
@EvilEmperor
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L lenses are described as:
by whom?

You put in quotation marks, as if to infer a comment from a valid source:
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"these lenses use special optical technologies [such as] Ultra-low Dispersion UD glass, Super Low Dispersion glass, Fluorite elements, and Aspherical elements to truly push the optical envelope."


Yet you neglect to identify the source.
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AND they are drip proof

Even the TS-EL lenses?

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weather resistant
except the nonIS 70-200's)

and have stone build quality.  Erm? the early 1990's push pull L zooms?

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Re: Canon PowerShot Pro1X [CR1]
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2012, 09:17:48 AM »
I want one and I want it now! ;D

however I have to agree with an earlier post:
'It would be weird to have both this camera and the G1X in the lineup at the same time'.
not to mention that it would be confusing to have a G1X and a Pro1X so close together in the lineup surely the X has been used too much lately and is getting a bit past it's prime?
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Re: Canon PowerShot Pro1X [CR1]
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2012, 09:17:48 AM »