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Re: 85mm f/1.2 ii or 135mm f/2
« Reply #60 on: September 01, 2012, 03:16:50 AM »
It's not as if we're comparing L vs. non-L lenses. You can't go wrong with either lens, they're both excellent. The answer to your question boils down to what it's primary purpose will be and what your budget is.

If it's primarily for portraits, go for the 85L. DOF and focal length take precedence over minor quibbles such as the AF speed, it's not as if your subject is constantly moving.

Otherwise get the 135L. Too long for portraits though, but costs way less money and IQ is out of this world. Honestly, who would actually say that its F2 bokeh is crap compared to the 85L's F1.2?
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Re: 85mm f/1.2 ii or 135mm f/2
« Reply #61 on: September 01, 2012, 04:15:02 AM »
Otherwise get the 135L. Too long for portraits though...

Maybe this is true for a limited, indoor space. But it all depends on the distance from subject. We are not all working with the same conditions or shooting styles.

And I think we can probably agree that the look of a 200mm f/2 @ 7 meters isn't the same as an 85mm f/2 @ 2 meters.

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Re: 85mm f/1.2 ii or 135mm f/2
« Reply #62 on: September 01, 2012, 04:48:25 AM »
I never used my 135L when I had it. Too long, even on full frame.

The 85L is more versatile and as you say the 135L is cheaper....so get the 85L and buy the 135 later.

The 85L is one of my most used lenses, for portraits it's almost exclusive (Other than the Hasselblad 100mm + 1.7x TC). Consider the 85mm 1.8 though, seriously consider it.

You can't really tell the difference between the two, it focuses quicker and is much lighter (and cheaper).

Then you can buy both.
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Re: 85mm f/1.2 ii or 135mm f/2
« Reply #63 on: September 01, 2012, 05:34:57 AM »
Go for the 85L first.

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Re: 85mm f/1.2 ii or 135mm f/2
« Reply #64 on: September 01, 2012, 05:37:45 AM »
Apart from CA.... how do the 85 1.8 compare to the mighty  f1.2? Does it have a nice Bokeh?

What about the 100 f2 compared to the 85 f1.8?

I don't make money off Photography or I'd have both the f1.2 and 135L.... hard to justify getting them in my situation. I just returned the f/1.2... sad to see it go, but I could not justify keeping one at that price.
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Re: 85mm f/1.2 ii or 135mm f/2
« Reply #65 on: September 01, 2012, 06:14:58 AM »

Maybe this is true for a limited, indoor space. But it all depends on the distance from subject. We are not all working with the same conditions or shooting styles.

And I think we can probably agree that the look of a 200mm f/2 @ 7 meters isn't the same as an 85mm f/2 @ 2 meters.

A photographer worth his salt wouldn't normally shoot portraits 7 meters out.

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Re: 85mm f/1.2 ii or 135mm f/2
« Reply #66 on: September 01, 2012, 07:07:39 AM »
A photographer worth his salt wouldn't normally shoot portraits 7 meters out.
I've watched Joe McNally (who is worth more than his salt) shoot portraits not just 7 meters away but even further.
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Re: 85mm f/1.2 ii or 135mm f/2
« Reply #67 on: September 01, 2012, 09:14:52 AM »
i have the 85mm f1.2ii instead of 135mm. i like to shoot portrait with half or full body. hence, 135mm is too narrow for me. the first time i test shot at the shop was really amazed with the bokeh and sharpness at f1.2.

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Re: 85mm f/1.2 ii or 135mm f/2
« Reply #68 on: September 01, 2012, 10:01:38 AM »
i have the 85mm f1.2ii instead of 135mm. i like to shoot portrait with half or full body. hence, 135mm is too narrow for me. the first time i test shot at the shop was really amazed with the bokeh and sharpness at f1.2.

here are some sample shot
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Re: 85mm f/1.2 ii or 135mm f/2
« Reply #69 on: September 01, 2012, 10:25:38 AM »

Maybe this is true for a limited, indoor space. But it all depends on the distance from subject. We are not all working with the same conditions or shooting styles.

And I think we can probably agree that the look of a 200mm f/2 @ 7 meters isn't the same as an 85mm f/2 @ 2 meters.

A photographer worth his salt wouldn't normally shoot portraits 7 meters out.

If you want to be narrow-minded, fine.  But I think the 200 f/2L takes better portrait shots than the 85L.  Who cares how far away I am?  If it looks way better, then I'm doing it.  I'm talking mostly face/head shots of course.
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Re: 85mm f/1.2 ii or 135mm f/2
« Reply #70 on: September 01, 2012, 10:41:05 AM »
If you want to be narrow-minded, fine.  But I think the 200 f/2L takes better portrait shots than the 85L.

Favoring the 85L over the 200L sounds wide-minded, actually...   ::)
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Re: 85mm f/1.2 ii or 135mm f/2
« Reply #71 on: September 01, 2012, 10:54:09 AM »
If you want to be narrow-minded, fine.  But I think the 200 f/2L takes better portrait shots than the 85L.

Favoring the 85L over the 200L sounds wide-minded, actually...   ::)

Are you implying that the people I take portraits of eat quite a bit of fast food??  :)

Sorry, I should have stated that I do use the 85L, 135L, and 200L, all 3, for portrait work. 

Nice one though! :)
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Re: 85mm f/1.2 ii or 135mm f/2
« Reply #72 on: September 01, 2012, 11:01:35 AM »
If you want to be narrow-minded, fine.  But I think the 200 f/2L takes better portrait shots than the 85L.

Favoring the 85L over the 200L sounds wide-minded, actually...   ::)

Are you implying that the people I take portraits of eat quite a bit of fast food??  :)

Sorry, I should have stated that I do use the 85L, 135L, and 200L, all 3, for portrait work. 

Nice one though! :)
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Re: 85mm f/1.2 ii or 135mm f/2
« Reply #73 on: September 01, 2012, 11:26:48 AM »
I've watched Joe McNally (who is worth more than his salt) shoot portraits not just 7 meters away but even further.

Yup, I've seen him do it too. I'm sure Anne Leibovitz or Greg Heisler also have shot from that far out as well. But I don't think their lens of choice when shooting portraits is a 135 or a 200.
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Re: 85mm f/1.2 ii or 135mm f/2
« Reply #74 on: September 01, 2012, 12:32:02 PM »
I've watched Joe McNally (who is worth more than his salt) shoot portraits not just 7 meters away but even further.

Yup, I've seen him do it too. I'm sure Anne Leibovitz or Greg Heisler also have shot from that far out as well. But I don't think their lens of choice when shooting portraits is a 135 or a 200.
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