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Re: Some jewelry made by my wife taken with the 5D MKIII
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2012, 09:21:01 AM »
Perfect composition and setup, but I don´t like the image quality.

That´s why I shot models and products with the Hasselblad.

Thanks! I wish I had a Hasselblad... Some day... Some day...
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Re: Some jewelry made by my wife taken with the 5D MKIII
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2012, 09:23:42 AM »
Use Focus Bracketing to fix the issues with the lack of Depth Of Field. This will also allow you to open up a bit more and achieve better sharpness from the lens.




Other than that, awesome set up and lighting. Well done.

I bracketed, but could not use it, if you take a look under the camera, there is a Stackshot rail. I could not used it because very stupidly, I tilted the lens too much and the very top of the object is out of focus all the time on all of the stacks... Next time I'll be more careful.
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Re: Some jewelry made by my wife taken with the 5D MKIII
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2012, 09:29:47 AM »
Is there noise added? The purple parts look very noisy for ISO200.

Light and composition is really nice done.

Thanks, I forgot to turn off the noise, I added it on purpose because these photos are to be used in a Facebook, which uses a killer compression on their photos, so in the very dark parts of the photo, you get to see a lot of banding in the colors, if I add noise the banding gets much less noticeable..

Anyway, something I still can't quite get around it, is the fact that both, 5D and 1DX when used with Lightroom and the new 2012 render, the pixels very close to black, are very noisy at ANY ISO you try. It is related to the contrast not being as strong as it was in the previous 2010 render, it was always there.. But now I see it, before was burried by th contrast of blacks at 5 which as the default and now is 0....
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Re: Some jewelry made by my wife taken with the 5D MKIII
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2012, 09:32:31 AM »
They all look good to me...I'm not a big fan of the model hand though...IMHO it distracts from the product.

Thanks, not a fan either, specially because the pose of the hand is sort of very stiff..... :-). But could not come with a better object to actually hang the neckles. I ordered some black chests to hang them, hopefully will look better.
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Re: Some jewelry made by my wife taken with the 5D MKIII
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2012, 09:42:31 AM »
Your imagery and technique are excellent, period.
The only suggestion I might have is reference to scale in some of the images.  The hand gives you the relative size of your wifes beautiful artwork.  Without something in the image to let us know the comparative size, I couldn't really discern if it was a bracelet or a necklace.
Great work by you, the photographer, and your wife, the artist.
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Re: Some jewelry made by my wife taken with the 5D MKIII
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2012, 09:44:32 AM »
@ M.ST... Out if interest what about the IQ dont you like. I think its incredible. Id be so proud if I produced anything like that. What is it about my untrained eye that im missing?

OK fair enough, I can understand it wouldnt be good enough for a huge brand campaign, but something smaller surley its good enough?

Thanks!

Thanks, answering your private question here, hope you don't mind, so other that might have the same interest can see this too


The light on top with the big stip difusser, does the general light for the hand in a very soft way, as the surface is a black glass, it does not reflect that much light, also you don't see it's reflection because the angle of the camera with the table, the light on the left from with a snoot creates a soft but small circle of light on the lower part of the neckles so you see a better detail. The light on the front right soften the shadow on the neckles over the hand on the photos you see the hand, is off on the other photos.

In the BG there is a piece of white foam hanging from a curtain bar that I stole from my room :-). I have the flash with a reflector fitted with a 10 degree honeycomb filter, and a purple filter, actually a transparent gift wrap paper color purple :-) that is what generates the reflection with the strong color purple you see on the photos. 

What I'm missing, white pieces of cardboard hanged at the right angle so there is a catch to reflect by the stones, the big black stone could use that for sure. Will do next time...  Love to do this so I can see these mistakes and learn for next time. At the end, it's just a hobby for me...

Postproduction, mostly to erase dust, seems to be impossible to get these photos totally dust free, and to clean reflections, some need to be softer, even softer that what I have them already.... I've learned a new technique yesterday that will try in Photoshop that might help getting it even better.....
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Re: Some jewelry made by my wife taken with the 5D MKIII
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2012, 09:46:43 AM »
Your imagery and technique are excellent, period.
The only suggestion I might have is reference to scale in some of the images.  The hand gives you the relative size of your wifes beautiful artwork.  Without something in the image to let us know the comparative size, I couldn't really discern if it was a bracelet or a necklace.
Great work by you, the photographer, and your wife, the artist.

Thanks! That is a good point, have not thought about it, may be the reason some photographers use other known elements in their photos..... 
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Re: Some jewelry made by my wife taken with the 5D MKIII
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Re: Some jewelry made by my wife taken with the 5D MKIII
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2012, 03:42:11 PM »
Which version of LR are you using?

Latest version, 4.1 or is there a new one? Lightroom does not show any new versions when I click to check for new ones.
LR 4.1 supports the 5D MkIII, as I use that combination.
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Re: Some jewelry made by my wife taken with the 5D MKIII
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2012, 04:44:38 PM »
Which version of LR are you using?

Latest version, 4.1 or is there a new one? Lightroom does not show any new versions when I click to check for new ones.
LR 4.1 supports the 5D MkIII, as I use that combination.

Can you tell us how? Because per Adobe, and my experience, it is not supported... We are not talking about import photos, we are talking about controlling the camera with Lightroom...
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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2012, 06:51:34 PM »
I think the pictures looks great! I really like the purple tint on the glass. I do agree with the hand being a little awkward but you made do with what you had.

I would be curious to hear more about the Hasselblad point. I understand they are common in studio type shooting especially with tethering, but I can't really see any "flaws" in the photos to say that they would benefit from medium format. 

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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2012, 06:55:29 PM »
Thanks!

I do believe that a medium format would give you less noise in the very dark parts, and lot more to work for a print, but not sure exactly what he sees on the pictures that are bad for the use will have that is just Internet. I mean, what would be the difference at naked eye one would see? I'm not sure about it
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Re: Some jewelry made by my wife taken with the 5D MKIII
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2012, 08:21:56 PM »
Which version of LR are you using?

Latest version, 4.1 or is there a new one? Lightroom does not show any new versions when I click to check for new ones.
LR 4.1 supports the 5D MkIII, as I use that combination.

Can you tell us how? Because per Adobe, and my experience, it is not supported... We are not talking about import photos, we are talking about controlling the camera with Lightroom...
I do not think he is aware that Lightroom 4 does not yet support tethered shooting with the 5D MK III.  Some see that the 5D MK III is supported, but do not know its not 100% supported.

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Re: Some jewelry made by my wife taken with the 5D MKIII
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2012, 08:54:52 PM »
Which version of LR are you using?

Latest version, 4.1 or is there a new one? Lightroom does not show any new versions when I click to check for new ones.
LR 4.1 supports the 5D MkIII, as I use that combination.

Can you tell us how? Because per Adobe, and my experience, it is not supported... We are not talking about import photos, we are talking about controlling the camera with Lightroom...
I do not think he is aware that Lightroom 4 does not yet support tethered shooting with the 5D MK III.  Some see that the 5D MK III is supported, but do not know its not 100% supported.

In my case wont work at all, the camera just says busy and won't do anything. May be he is saying it is supported for import...  I doubt some cameras would work and some would not.
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Re: Some jewelry made by my wife taken with the 5D MKIII
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Re: Some jewelry made by my wife taken with the 5D MKIII
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2012, 09:53:49 PM »
well.... now I did it with the 1D X and ISO 100, and got the tilt of the lens correctly, plus stacked focus. I think it looks better right? what you think.
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Re: Some jewelry made by my wife taken with the 5D MKIII
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2012, 09:57:29 PM »
this is the reason why I was adding some noise, Facebook really kills it....


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