Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specs? [CR1]

[bdunbar79]

If Canon could actually pull this off, I might crack open my wallet for this and a 5DIII if they both include flexible video crop modes!  I can't even believe they've removed that feature from the T4i.  It should have been gradually improved and included on all Canon cameras.

If they can't do that, I'll probably just keep my current cameras.  I've skipped 5 generations on one of them and 2 on the other so I don't mind.  They're going to have to cough up the goods if they want my money.

How true this is.  I'll tell ya what, had I bought a 1Ds Mark II back in 2005 brand new for $8k, I might very well still be shooting with that as my primary camera

[distant.star]

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Nice fantasy.

It isn't the centerfold picture, but it's good enough to get the job done on a lonely night.

[anselwannab]

So it would have a higher res than the 1Dx and just 2fps less?  That is the part I don't get.  I think the 7D is due for replacement, and these maybe the specs, but if they are, I don't see it getting here till mid next year.  1DX supply is tight still, eh?

With sensors getting cleaner and cleaner and video becoming more important as a feature, I don't know why Canon hasn't brought back the pellicle mirrors- they even had one in EOS cameras before.  Run a modern H sensor with a pellicle.  Get your 10FPs easy, video thru the viewfinder.  If I were Canon the 1DX would have had a pellicle mirror and 15 fps to augement a 30+MP camera.

But on this topic, if a 7D is about like a 1D mkIII I don't think it is much of a stretch that the 7Dmk II would be like a 1D MKIV.  Considering that used MKIIIs are about the price of a new 7D and MkIVs are about $3000-$3500k, that would indicate to me that the 7DMkII ( which would be about $2500?) is a bit off in the future.  Not that Canon uses that as a measure or metric, just that it seems like these things equilibrate in the market.  As more people dump MKIVs for 1DXs and the price drops a bit, the 7DMKII will appear.  Call is 'Spooky action at a distance".

I would expect that we get some kind of signalling at photokina.

[hmmm]

I've been waiting to hear 6D specs, thinking that I need full frame when upgrading from my 450D, however if there is such thing as a GOOD apc-s sensor, with 10FPS even though I rarely shoot that fast I would be super excited and torn for which product to buy if both were priced around 2K.   I mean 4FPS full frame or 10 FPS APC-S with a good build quality I dunno.

My thoughts exactly...  I had thought to move up to FF, am even keeping an eye on the D600... but if the 7DmkII sensor is actually improved (this time) I will seriously consider staying with aps-c.   The 10-22 is still a sweet lens, and the extra reach of 1.6x is handy.

What of the 70D?  The rumor mill has been silent on the 70D lately.   Perhaps the new 70D will feature this new sensor as well, but not, of course, the top of the line af.

How could the new sensor be improved?  backlit?  Something foveon-like?  As I recall we've seen Canon patents along those lines.   Intriguing.

If Photokina will see a 70D and a 7D mkII announcement with a new sensor that would pretty much explain why the 6D and high-MP announcement would be held off for a separate event in October.   If, as rumored,  the "6D"  uses the old-technology sensor from the 5DmkIII announcing it separately would defuse some of the hand-wringing angst concentrated on the question 'How come the new budget ff does not get the new sensor technology???'   Deferring the announcement would take some of the heat off the issue.

Judging by history (using the handy chart at NL), the 18mp debuted with the 7D in mid 2009, and it appeared on the rebel t2i before it showed up on the 60D several months later, in mid-2010.    Personally, I think it makes more sense to release it on a 7D mkII first, then a 70D, then a digital rebel.   Announcing both the 70D and 7DmkII at the same time with a new sensor doesn't seem out of the question to me, but it would be a break from precedent.   Maybe we'll see the 70D in the spring, and the t5i at the end of the next summer to roll out the new sensor.   But I'm hoping for a twin 7D - 70D rollout.

If this is the way it plays out, the choice will indeed be interesting: 7D mkII with new sensor tech -- maybe a new 70D with same sensor as well -- or FF at a breakthrough price...?  Decisions, decisions...   

[EOBeav]

7D which is cheaper than the 5D series .... and with BETTER FEATURES? NO WAY!

1.6 crop vs. full frame sensor
apples vs. oranges

[nicku]

24MP on a 1.6 crop sensor.... little too much. maybe will be APS-H

i wonder how the DOF will be on a such high resolution APS-C sensor.

[stilscream]

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<strong>The 7D Mark II a go?<br />


</strong>Below is a purported spec list for an upcoming EOS 7D Mark II.</p>
<p><strong>Specifications

</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>24MP – an all new sensor with phase AF on chip and noticeably lower noise than the current 18MP.</li>
<li>1Dx/5D3 based AF system.</li>
<li>10 FPS.</li>
<li>ISO 100-25600.</li>
<li>High speed video, with still capture.</li>
<li>Improved durability and sealing.</li>

I could see this as a dslr competitor to the Sony (nex fs700?) high speed $8000 video camera. If it does 240 fps at 1080 or 960fps in lower res...I'd buy it in a heartbeat even if there was little improvement still-picture wise. How fun is slow motion? Very very fun!

[nicku]

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<strong>The 7D Mark II a go?<br />


</strong>Below is a purported spec list for an upcoming EOS 7D Mark II.</p>
<p><strong>Specifications

</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>24MP – an all new sensor with phase AF on chip and noticeably lower noise than the current 18MP.</li>
<li>1Dx/5D3 based AF system.</li>
<li>10 FPS.</li>
<li>ISO 100-25600.</li>
<li>High speed video, with still capture.</li>
<li>Improved durability and sealing.</li>

I could see this as a dslr competitor to the Sony (nex fs700?) high speed $8000 video camera. If it does 240 fps at 1080 or 960fps in lower res...I'd buy it in a heartbeat even if there was little improvement still-picture wise. How fun is slow motion? Very very fun!

if will do 60-80 fps at 1080 and 120 fps at 720P will be a big market hit.

[AprilForever]

I can see this being about 2500... but 2500 I will be happy to shell out!!!

[c.d.embrey]

Seems like, from what I've seen, that both Canon and Nikon are abandoning High-End APS-C. No-one thinks that a 7D2 or a D400 will be here anytime soon. Also there is about as much talk about a future Nikon D7100 as there is about the future Canon 70D.

Photokina will be interesting. Can't wait to see what is AND what isn't announced.

[anthony11]

•24MP – an all new sensor with phase AF on chip and noticeably lower noise than the current 18MP.
•1Dx/5D3 based AF system.
•10 FPS
It would be hilarious if it were true and the camera came out in the next six months.
Make it APS-C and wow......
If only.......

If only they'd leave it at no more than 18MP and give us usable ISO6400 and an AF system that works worth a damn, then I'd sell my 5D2 in a heartbeat. Friggin pixels. I don't need more, I need to shoot my kid indoors, where flash is rarely practical, and fast primes are a joke given that one has to stop down to at least f/5.6.

 

[dr croubie]

Sounds good to me...   I'll believe the "noticeably lower noise than the current 18MP," when I see the RAW files, and not a moment sooner.   

I'll believe the "noticeably lower noise than the current 18MP" waay waay more than I'd believe the "Available this year".

(or at least, i'll believe that the "noticeably lower noise than the current 18MP" will appear on marketing brochures)

[stefsan]

Sounds good to me...   I'll believe the "noticeably lower noise than the current 18MP," when I see the RAW files, and not a moment sooner.   

I'll believe the "noticeably lower noise than the current 18MP" waay waay more than I'd believe the "Available this year".

(or at least, i'll believe that the "noticeably lower noise than the current 18MP" will appear on marketing brochures)

I tend to agree that the marketing brouchers will be the place where "noticably lower noise" will be the most noticable. But if Canon manages to deliver such a camera, it will sell like hot cakes. Together with the 5DIII it would make a perfect pair…

[anthony11]

Well, you have to admit that the bar isn't very high to offer lower noise than the 7D.

[nicku]

Sounds good to me...   I'll believe the "noticeably lower noise than the current 18MP," when I see the RAW files, and not a moment sooner.   

I'll believe the "noticeably lower noise than the current 18MP" waay waay more than I'd believe the "Available this year".

(or at least, i'll believe that the "noticeably lower noise than the current 18MP" will appear on marketing brochures)

I tend to agree that the marketing brouchers will be the place where "noticably lower noise" will be the most noticable. But if Canon manages to deliver such a camera, it will sell like hot cakes. Together with the 5DIII it would make a perfect pair…

I believe this is the intention.... but ''noticable lower noise'' will come with a price ( in terms of image sharpness and overall camera price; my guess $2499).