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Re: Canon EOS 3D X [CR1]
« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2012, 10:55:31 AM »
I'm in the reusing the 1d name camp....   we have 1DC, 1DX, 1DM - for "Max" to allude at "medium" format quality at FF sized sensor.
The "M" name is already taken, that's their mirrorless cameras (EOS-M). It'd be a nightmare for them to put out a 1DM that isn't mirror less, definitely confuse a lot of people. It would be just as bad as naming it 3D. Since they already have the legacy of the 1Ds, I'd go with that.

"Industry leading ISO Performance" limited to 6400 native  :P
Amazingly, in quoting that, you managed to remove the word "low" from it, which makes all the difference

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Re: Canon EOS 3D X [CR1]
« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2012, 10:55:31 AM »

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Re: Canon EOS 3D X [CR1]
« Reply #46 on: August 21, 2012, 11:13:35 AM »
The 5DIII was targeted to event and wedding photographers who need clean images at higher ISOs. They won't be upset when this surfaces.

... but still many will because they shelled out $3500 to get the latest gimmick on the block, and the arguably the "clean images at high iso" advantage compared to the 5d2 is minor and the 3d shows a real step forward.

Another feature mentioned about the camera is better heat dissipation of the sensor compared to other EOS cameras. Apparently, this results in industry leading low ISO performance.

"Heat dissipation" is the real problem of eos iso noise (not another sensor design like Sony's)?! Since it isn't April 1st, can anyone please enlighten me or share a link with an explanation?

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Re: Canon EOS 3D X [CR1]
« Reply #47 on: August 21, 2012, 11:16:29 AM »
Now if they also added a real 3D capability to this model then it might be worth it.

If they added 3D shooting, this would be more of a pull to the moving pictures folk as opposed to the stills crowd - and that segment seems to be well filled by canon's lineup.

And the Fuji 3D camera really never picked up - maybe it was too soon??
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Re: Canon EOS 3D X [CR1]
« Reply #48 on: August 21, 2012, 11:19:44 AM »

... but still many will because they shelled out $3500 to get the latest gimmick on the block

If that was their main motivation to buy a new camera then I'm not feeling with them.

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« Reply #49 on: August 21, 2012, 11:22:39 AM »
and where is the rumors for the 6d??

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« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2012, 11:23:45 AM »
The 5DIII was targeted to event and wedding photographers who need clean images at higher ISOs. They won't be upset when this surfaces.

... but still many will because they shelled out $3500 to get the latest gimmick on the block, and the arguably the "clean images at high iso" advantage compared to the 5d2 is minor and the 3d shows a real step forward.

Another feature mentioned about the camera is better heat dissipation of the sensor compared to other EOS cameras. Apparently, this results in industry leading low ISO performance.

"Heat dissipation" is the real problem of eos iso noise (not another sensor design like Sony's)?! Since it isn't April 1st, can anyone please enlighten me or share a link with an explanation?

The Canon 3D X: the first camera with a tiny built-in fan!   ;D

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Re: Canon EOS 3D X [CR1]
« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2012, 11:27:28 AM »
"Industry leading ISO Performance" limited to 6400 native  :P

High MP cameras is not about high ISO performance, it is about high DR at base ISO. If your applications require high ISO they don't require high MP, and then there's 5Dmk3 and 1DX.

If it will offer 12 DR stops @ ISO 6400 then why forbid them go so far?  :D

I would be happy if it has 12 DR stops @ ISO 100, considering Canon's classic blown-out sky feature in the past.

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Re: Canon EOS 3D X [CR1]
« Reply #52 on: August 21, 2012, 11:43:51 AM »
"Industry leading ISO Performance" limited to 6400 native  :P

High MP cameras is not about high ISO performance, it is about high DR at base ISO. If your applications require high ISO they don't require high MP, and then there's 5Dmk3 and 1DX.

If it will offer 12 DR stops @ ISO 6400 then why forbid them go so far?  :D

I would be happy if it has 12 DR stops @ ISO 100, considering Canon's classic blown-out sky feature in the past.

Maybe they include ready to reuse half pictures with typical sky with a smart merge option - who needs the real sky? :) :) :)
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Re: Canon EOS 3D X [CR1]
« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2012, 11:44:25 AM »
I think it will remain in the realm of camera rumour porn this one though. Yet again, I might be surprised come Photokina. Doubt it.

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Re: Canon EOS 3D X [CR1]
« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2012, 11:45:10 AM »
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Now if they also added a real 3D capability to this model then it might be worth it.

Would you like two EF-mounts in a body or a converter with complex mirror system? :) :)
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Re: Canon EOS 3D X [CR1]
« Reply #55 on: August 21, 2012, 11:47:25 AM »
The 5DIII was targeted to event and wedding photographers who need clean images at higher ISOs. They won't be upset when this surfaces.

... but still many will because they shelled out $3500 to get the latest gimmick on the block, and the arguably the "clean images at high iso" advantage compared to the 5d2 is minor and the 3d shows a real step forward.

Another feature mentioned about the camera is better heat dissipation of the sensor compared to other EOS cameras. Apparently, this results in industry leading low ISO performance.

"Heat dissipation" is the real problem of eos iso noise (not another sensor design like Sony's)?! Since it isn't April 1st, can anyone please enlighten me or share a link with an explanation?

Gimmick?  Let's go shoot some sports together at night, or perhaps a wedding reception of kids running around.  Your advertising to the sports editor or the couple of the wedding will really be a gimmick when you have no shots to produce and I have several hundred.  I owned both the 5D2 and 7D and the 5D3 is way better than those 2 combined.  Hardly a gimmick.  If it's a gimmick, fine, it gets me shots I couldn't get with either the 5D2 or 7D.  All to their own I suppose.

On a more useful note, I doubt this camera will be released for some time.  The 1DX and 5D3 are way too new.
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Re: Canon EOS 3D X [CR1]
« Reply #56 on: August 21, 2012, 11:47:52 AM »
Why not call it the 1D Xs for studio

AFAIC, they can call it the EOS Mickey Mouse if it's better than a D800E :-)
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Re: Canon EOS 3D X [CR1]
« Reply #57 on: August 21, 2012, 11:57:39 AM »
No Eye-Control Focus????
.... NO never ever again! I say it everytime. Why ppl dont believe me?

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« Reply #58 on: August 21, 2012, 11:58:10 AM »
Looks like whoever sent this rumour to Craig also sent it to Keith Cooper over at Northlight Images (http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_3d.html) along with some embellishments:

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  • "Its a new type of body,looks like a mini 1DX, it has a integrated portrait grip but its a bit thinner and significantly shorter and also lighter (no rear lcd panel)"

Sorry, but (1) and (3), as well as the heat dissipation business sound a lot like b*ll*cks to me.  It's a bit soon after the launch of the 1D X and 5D MkIII to start suggesting that their technology is out of date.  As for the mini integrated portrait grip, perhaps they've seen the illustrations from NL and added them on to their imaginary spec list?

Naturally, I will be more than please if I am eating my words in a month or so...!  ::)[/list]

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Re: Canon EOS 3D X [CR1]
« Reply #59 on: August 21, 2012, 12:00:46 PM »
It would be nice if Canon had/stuck to a naming convention like...

1D thru 5D = full frame "pro" model
6D thru 9D = crop frame "pro - semi-pro"
10D thru 90D = crop
100D thru 2000D = entry level

This is how it looks now anyway, so if the 3D is a crop sensor, you can chuck this nomenclature out the window.
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