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What lens/es for holiday with a family
« on: August 24, 2012, 07:31:41 PM »
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I live in Adelaide, South Australia (have done for 5 years) and I've arranged to go on an interstate holiday for a week with some good friends of mine (we go to the same church and have known each other for 5 years).  They are a family of five: dad (44), mum (42), 15yo daughter, 13 yo daughter and 8yo son. I'm 37 (turning 38 next week ;) ) and I have a good friendship with all the family: sort of like a 'fun uncle' to the children, and have a close friendship with both parents. We will be travelling in their 7 (or 8?) seater van, us 3 adults sharing the driving.

We are going to Australia's island state of Tasmania (where I grew up) - which is known for it's beautiful landscapes: particularly mountains & coastlines which are more dramatic than many other parts of Australia. (Tasmania's weather is cooler than South Australia, though by some standards in the world, no part of Australia is VERY cold!) No one in this family has been to Tasmania before, though they have visited some other parts of Australia. I lived in Europe for about a decade before I lived in South Australia. That means I haven't been to many of the places in Tasmania that we hope to visit for years, ie since I got into serious (DSLR) photography several years ago. (I go back annually to visit my family - parents, brothers and their families).  :D

So... my question to you is: what gear would you take, specifically lenses.  We will be quite tight for space in the van (though based most of the time at my retired parents' farm). I already have an idea what gear / lenses I will take- but before I spill my beans, I'd like your take on it. The main reason that I'm going is to go as a friend, and also to be their 'unofficial' tour guide (as I did a lot of travelling, walking and sight-seeing around Tasmania when I was in my teens and early 20's).  All the family love the outdoors (ie we are hoping to see rainforests, waterfalls, cliffs & coastlines, go up some mountains, possibly see some wildlife, etc).  But we'll also do some 'tourist' visiting, eg historical sites, museums, chocolate factory, etc.

My plan is to take quite a few photos while we visit places, see things - and present an online album to the family afterwards as a momento of this special holiday; particularly saying thanks to my friends - the parents - who invited me to join them. The 2 teenage girls are sweet, humble girls - who are not too self-conscious - that is, they are very happy for me to take their photo, but they're not vain (as in, they wouldn't want hundreds of 'posed photos'). Eg if we were at a waterfall and all I did is take photos of them, they would say "Paul... you should take photos of the waterfall, not just of me... I already know what I look like!")  The parents really appreciate my photography, they have seen many of the photos I've taken in Europe and in Australia. The 8 year old boy is a bundle of energy and tends to show off at times, a balance between quite demanding of attention, yet he can be sensitive at times too.  8)

The gear I currently have is:
Canon 7D  (with 2 batteries)
Canon 350D (with 3 batteries)
Sigma 10-20mm HSM EX
Canon 15-85mm USM IS
Canon 18-55mm
Canon 100mm USM
Canon 70-300mm L USM IS
Several filters (eg 3x CPL, 2xND, 2xUV, etc)
Manfrotto tripod (2 heads: ball head & 3-way)
Nissin Di866mkII pro flash (with 1 set of recharge batteries)
Hahnel wireless timer remote
CF cards: 32GB, 16GB, 2x4GB, 3x1GB (and several smaller)
Lowepro Nova 170AW shoulder bag
Lowepro Slingshot 300 AW '1 strap' backpack

Please don't say "Take it all along" - as this would present a problems for 2 main reasons:
1) There is not going to be much spare room in their van - and it would be both selfish and impractical
2) It would be too cumbersome / awkward for me to take and be changing all my lenses (not to mention other gear) during the time we're 'out and about'.

My main question is... what lenses would you take - and why?
And of the other gear, what would be your selection - and why?

After several posts have been made (I hope several people will present opinions) - I'll share my thoughts and reflections.

Thanks in advance for your comments, thoughts and posts!   :)

Paul
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What lens/es for holiday with a family
« on: August 24, 2012, 07:31:41 PM »

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Re: What lens/es for holiday with a family
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2012, 07:50:11 PM »
7D, 15-85, 70-300L (same size filters, IIRC, but my recollection could be wrong), CPL and ND, tripod and ballhead, and Sigma ultra wide if there is room in the slingshot bag.  That kit covers a broad range, with great IQ.
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2012, 08:02:53 PM »
7D, 15-85, 70-300L (same size filters, IIRC, but my recollection could be wrong), CPL and ND, tripod and ballhead, and Sigma ultra wide if there is room in the slingshot bag.  That kit covers a broad range, with great IQ.
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And if you don't plan on going for long shots, drop the 70-300L.

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Re: What lens/es for holiday with a family
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2012, 08:37:01 PM »
I looked at your site and you have awesome photos from all over. I really liked the Thai gallery.
The question is how much time/energy you'll have to take photos since you'll be "tied" to them... 

So, if you'll have plenty take the 7D, 15-85, 70-300, tripod/ballhead, flash, filters, remote...
If you don't think you'll have that much time I'd take the 7D, 15-85 and a flash (maybe a gorillapod and a remote).
If you're planning to do a lot of scenic shots add the 10-20.

Not sure how much you trust your gear with others but you could also give the 350 and 18-55 to the children and see what they'll came up with. Could be interesting :)

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Re: What lens/es for holiday with a family
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2012, 08:47:18 PM »
Hello CR friends

I live in Adelaide, South Australia (have done for 5 years) and I've arranged to go on an interstate holiday for a week with some good friends of mine (we go to the same church and have known each other for 5 years).  They are a family of five: dad (44), mum (42), 15yo daughter, 13 yo daughter and 8yo son. I'm 37 (turning 38 next week ;) ) and I have a good friendship with all the family: sort of like a 'fun uncle' to the children, and have a close friendship with both parents. We will be travelling in their 7 (or 8?) seater van, us 3 adults sharing the driving.

We are going to Australia's island state of Tasmania (where I grew up) - which is known for it's beautiful landscapes: particularly mountains & coastlines which are more dramatic than many other parts of Australia. (Tasmania's weather is cooler than South Australia, though by some standards in the world, no part of Australia is VERY cold!) No one in this family has been to Tasmania before, though they have visited some other parts of Australia. I lived in Europe for about a decade before I lived in South Australia. That means I haven't been to many of the places in Tasmania that we hope to visit for years, ie since I got into serious (DSLR) photography several years ago. (I go back annually to visit my family - parents, brothers and their families).  :D

So... my question to you is: what gear would you take, specifically lenses.  We will be quite tight for space in the van (though based most of the time at my retired parents' farm). I already have an idea what gear / lenses I will take- but before I spill my beans, I'd like your take on it. The main reason that I'm going is to go as a friend, and also to be their 'unofficial' tour guide (as I did a lot of travelling, walking and sight-seeing around Tasmania when I was in my teens and early 20's).  All the family love the outdoors (ie we are hoping to see rainforests, waterfalls, cliffs & coastlines, go up some mountains, possibly see some wildlife, etc).  But we'll also do some 'tourist' visiting, eg historical sites, museums, chocolate factory, etc.

My plan is to take quite a few photos while we visit places, see things - and present an online album to the family afterwards as a momento of this special holiday; particularly saying thanks to my friends - the parents - who invited me to join them. The 2 teenage girls are sweet, humble girls - who are not too self-conscious - that is, they are very happy for me to take their photo, but they're not vain (as in, they wouldn't want hundreds of 'posed photos'). Eg if we were at a waterfall and all I did is take photos of them, they would say "Paul... you should take photos of the waterfall, not just of me... I already know what I look like!")  The parents really appreciate my photography, they have seen many of the photos I've taken in Europe and in Australia. The 8 year old boy is a bundle of energy and tends to show off at times, a balance between quite demanding of attention, yet he can be sensitive at times too.  8)

The gear I currently have is:
Canon 7D  (with 2 batteries)
Canon 350D (with 3 batteries)
Sigma 10-20mm HSM EX
Canon 15-85mm USM IS
Canon 18-55mm
Canon 100mm USM
Canon 70-300mm L USM IS
Several filters (eg 3x CPL, 2xND, 2xUV, etc)
Manfrotto tripod (2 heads: ball head & 3-way)
Nissin Di866mkII pro flash (with 1 set of recharge batteries)
Hahnel wireless timer remote
CF cards: 32GB, 16GB, 2x4GB, 3x1GB (and several smaller)
Lowepro Nova 170AW shoulder bag
Lowepro Slingshot 300 AW '1 strap' backpack

Please don't say "Take it all along" - as this would present a problems for 2 main reasons:
1) There is not going to be much spare room in their van - and it would be both selfish and impractical
2) It would be too cumbersome / awkward for me to take and be changing all my lenses (not to mention other gear) during the time we're 'out and about'.

My main question is... what lenses would you take - and why?
And of the other gear, what would be your selection - and why?

After several posts have been made (I hope several people will present opinions) - I'll share my thoughts and reflections.

Thanks in advance for your comments, thoughts and posts!   :)

Paul

If I were you I would take:
1. Canon 7D  (with 2 batteries)
2. Canon 15-85mm USM IS
3. Filters (eg CPL, ND, & UV)
4. Manfrotto tripod & 1ball head
5. Nissin Di866mkII pro flash
6. Hahnel wireless timer remote
7. CF cards: 32GB, 16GB, 2x4GB, 3x1GB (and several smaller)
8. Lowepro Nova 170AW shoulder bag

I recommend this bcoz you said:
"No one in this family has been to Tasmania before" ... "My plan is to take quite a few photos while we visit places, see things - and present an online album to the family afterwards as a momento of this special holiday; particularly saying thanks to my friends - the parents - who invited me to join them".
If my plan was to make a nice online album I don't want to miss any photo opportunities while changing lenses, so sticking with one general puropse lens like 15-85 helps me not miss any shots ... plus I'd also add in some fusion in my thank you gift by having some video footage as well. Since your priority is your family and friends, travelling with the least amount of gear would be a good idea.
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Re: What lens/es for holiday with a family
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2012, 09:25:59 PM »
7D, 15-85, 70-300L (same size filters, IIRC, but my recollection could be wrong), CPL and ND, tripod and ballhead, and Sigma ultra wide if there is room in the bag.

+2

I agree the 10-22 is needed for the wider shots outside and also inside the van, if you are all cramped in there together, there could be some good candid shots captured here.

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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2012, 09:25:59 PM »