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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2012, 04:44:30 PM »
Funny you should ask. I'm seriously considering upgrading to the 50L. And no, I don't expect 100% perfection. The thing however is that my 50 1.4 is one of my most used lenses. And I shoot it wide open a lot.

The L is supposed to be slightly sharper when shot wide and has better contrast. The price you pay for that seems to be a little more fringing, slightly less sharpness over f/8 (or so) and slower AF. Not sure if I would/will notice this.

The biggest factor for me is the build quality and the fact that I use 50mm so much. I'm intending to keep my 1.4 for now and see how it goes. I may also get rid of my 24-105 zoom then since I'm doing fine with just a 50 and the 135L most of the time now anyway.

Don't get me wrong: the 1.4 is a great lens optically - if only it was build better. On film I used my FD 50 1.4 90% of the time. It's the same exact lens design in a metal barrel and MF of course. If that one fit on my 5DII we probably wouldn't have this conversation...

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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2012, 04:44:30 PM »

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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2012, 05:44:53 PM »
Funny you should ask. I'm seriously considering upgrading to the 50L. And no, I don't expect 100% perfection. The thing however is that my 50 1.4 is one of my most used lenses. And I shoot it wide open a lot.

The L is supposed to be slightly sharper when shot wide and has better contrast. The price you pay for that seems to be a little more fringing, slightly less sharpness over f/8 (or so) and slower AF. Not sure if I would/will notice this.

The biggest factor for me is the build quality and the fact that I use 50mm so much. I'm intending to keep my 1.4 for now and see how it goes. I may also get rid of my 24-105 zoom then since I'm doing fine with just a 50 and the 135L most of the time now anyway.

Don't get me wrong: the 1.4 is a great lens optically - if only it was build better. On film I used my FD 50 1.4 90% of the time. It's the same exact lens design in a metal barrel and MF of course. If that one fit on my 5DII we probably wouldn't have this conversation...

If you're going to shoot wide open a lot, get the L.  It is sharper than the 1.4 at wide apertures, and noticeably so.  Is that worth the money to you?  If so, go ahead, I shot with it since April.
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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2012, 12:57:58 PM »
Three reasons why the L version is the way to go, Legendary Bokeh, Legendary low light performance, Excellent build. The 50L is the 85L mini. The bokeh is stellar and the colors pop! I had the 501.4 and didn't enjoy working with it. While shallow dof can be a pain and oof shots are more often I have learned ot just shoot more and when you hit it, you hit it. Since the 50 is the lens most people will find themselves using most in their kit why not go pro quality. I am sure the siggy's are good, i've heard lots of good reports. If i were tempted the Siggy 85 1.4 would be a route i would take. In that case you give up build quality to the 85L. No Siggy build will handle the punishment an L lens will. I've never felt quality craftsmanship in my hands cept the nikon and Canon Pro lenses. This isnt bias talking either.
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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2012, 01:58:35 PM »
Three reasons why the L version is the way to go, Legendary Bokeh, Legendary low light performance, Excellent build. The 50L is the 85L mini. The bokeh is stellar and the colors pop! I had the 501.4 and didn't enjoy working with it. While shallow dof can be a pain and oof shots are more often I have learned ot just shoot more and when you hit it, you hit it. Since the 50 is the lens most people will find themselves using most in their kit why not go pro quality. I am sure the siggy's are good, i've heard lots of good reports. If i were tempted the Siggy 85 1.4 would be a route i would take. In that case you give up build quality to the 85L. No Siggy build will handle the punishment an L lens will. I've never felt quality craftsmanship in my hands cept the nikon and Canon Pro lenses. This isnt bias talking either.

I think you are missing my point.  Who cares about pro build quality when you have the option of two lenses at f/8, one that is sharper than the other?  That was my point.  f/1.2 to f/2.8 the 50L the way to go, though.  Narrower, it would be a very poor choice considering the cost.
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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2012, 02:43:38 PM »
+1 for the Sigma 1.4. It is awesome!
However when I get the bug to buy another lens I look at what people can do with a lens what I already have or the cheaper version of what I am looking at..... 
Usually I realize that it's not the lens that holds me back :)

This lady, Alisa - who shot someone I know - uses 5d2 and 50 1.4 (and 35 1.4). Worth a look what a 50 1.4 can do in the right hands, pointing in the right direction :)
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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2012, 03:50:26 PM »
http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/01/the-great-50mm-shootout

I like this article.  It may be redundant because I didn't read every post, but it makes me feel pretty good about my 50mm f/1.4.
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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2012, 04:53:28 PM »
http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/01/the-great-50mm-shootout

I like this article.  It may be redundant because I didn't read every post, but it makes me feel pretty good about my 50mm f/1.4.


After reading the article I feel the same.  Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2012, 04:53:28 PM »

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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2012, 05:09:57 PM »
http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/01/the-great-50mm-shootout

I like this article.  It may be redundant because I didn't read every post, but it makes me feel pretty good about my 50mm f/1.4.


After reading the article I feel the same.  Thanks for sharing.


It's a good article, especially informative for objectively comparing Canon vs. likes of Zeiss, which are often "thought of" as far superior but perhaps not so much.  I sold my Canon 50 f/1.4 and kept the 50L because when it comes down to it, the 50L is still the sharpest 50mm for EOS at f/1.2  8)

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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
« Reply #38 on: September 10, 2012, 08:12:03 PM »
Who cares about pro build quality when you have the option of two lenses at f/8, one that is sharper than the other? 

Actually, I'm just now having a 50mm f/1.4 returned to me from the repair shop. Build quality was the culprit. That, and my inability to fix my own stuff, but that's a topic for a different thread. Build quality will now become a factor when I'm choosing my next lens.
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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2012, 11:18:30 PM »
Who cares about pro build quality when you have the option of two lenses at f/8, one that is sharper than the other? 

Actually, I'm just now having a 50mm f/1.4 returned to me from the repair shop. Build quality was the culprit. That, and my inability to fix my own stuff, but that's a topic for a different thread. Build quality will now become a factor when I'm choosing my next lens.

Agreed.  I have a 50mm f/1.4 and I NEVER take off the hood for fear of it suffering damage and affecting the AF.  I naturally baby my equipment, but I want equipment built like a baby... so if it is dropped, it is practically made of rubber and will bounce back without issue. 
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2012, 11:40:10 PM »
Three reasons why the L version is the way to go, Legendary Bokeh, Legendary low light performance, Excellent build. The 50L is the 85L mini. The bokeh is stellar and the colors pop! I had the 501.4 and didn't enjoy working with it. While shallow dof can be a pain and oof shots are more often I have learned ot just shoot more and when you hit it, you hit it. Since the 50 is the lens most people will find themselves using most in their kit why not go pro quality. I am sure the siggy's are good, i've heard lots of good reports. If i were tempted the Siggy 85 1.4 would be a route i would take. In that case you give up build quality to the 85L. No Siggy build will handle the punishment an L lens will. I've never felt quality craftsmanship in my hands cept the nikon and Canon Pro lenses. This isnt bias talking either.

for what its worth i feel the siggy f1.4 new one is built better than the 50 f1.2L it does not extend for one thing
the 50 f1.2L is not as sealed as many more modern L glass
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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2012, 04:30:18 AM »
No question, the 50 f/1.4 gives you the best IQ for the money in their entire lineup. But it's finnicky and can be fragile. Learn it's little quirks and treat it gingerly, and you should be ok.
If you are not comfortable with Canon 50mm F/1.4, go with Sigma 50mm F/1.4.  It's much better than Canon 50mm F/1.4.

Build quality, maybe, but the difference in IQ is negligible from what I've seen. Plus, I'm reading a lot that the Sigma AF is inconsistent. Not that the Canon's AF is stellar, though. There's some give and taken no matter what you do.

Had both, used them on a 7D. Sigma wins hands down - better bokeh, better AF, better colors.

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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2012, 04:46:23 AM »
You don't get the 1.2L because it's sharp.  You get it because of the creamy bokeh at 1.2. 

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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2012, 05:47:33 AM »
Sigma 1.4 is an ugly piece of CA $hit. The only way it's better is a bokeh. In case it focuses at the right point ;)

Exchanged mine Sigma 1.4 to Canon 1.4 and happy with that.

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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2012, 08:43:25 AM »
50/1.2L examples


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Re: Canon 50 F1.4 VS 50 F1.2L Lenses
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