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Induro Gimbal Hold A 500mm?
« on: August 30, 2012, 06:39:41 PM »
I saw this that it would mount in a bh55 rrs but says up to 300mm. I was just wondering if it would hold the 500mm for a gimbal effect instead if buying a whole gimbal head. Or does anyone know of something similar that can hold the 500?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/655338-REG/Induro_485_000_GHBA_Gimbal_Head.html

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Re: Induro Gimbal Hold A 500mm?
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2012, 06:52:25 PM »
Seems to be a 20% cheaper version of the Wimberley Sidekick.  I'd check out Wimberley's page on full gimbal vs. side mount to help your decision.

Personally, I think the full gimbal is the better choice (and I like the RRS version for the added flexibility of conversion to nodal pano head, although an additional $140 clamp is needed).
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2012, 07:02:16 PM »
Seems to be a 20% cheaper version of the Wimberley Sidekick.  I'd check out Wimberley's page on full gimbal vs. side mount to help your decision.

Personally, I think the full gimbal is the better choice (and I like the RRS version for the added flexibility of conversion to nodal pano head, although an additional $140 clamp is needed).

The sidekick seems like a better model. I like the rrs gimbal but isn't it like $800? Lol I'm looking for something that can maybe clamp on or something so I don't have to change heads if the tripod which isn't a big deal but of course a full gimbal would be much more sturdy

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Re: Induro Gimbal Hold A 500mm?
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2012, 07:22:24 PM »
I have the Induro/Sidekick knock off and it's fine for the 70-200 II and possibly the 300 2.8, but I wouldn't use it for the 500mm.  I also have the 500mm ver 1 and when I got it, I also bought the Wimberley Sidekick.  The Sidekick seems beefier than the Induro product.  I also like the Sidekick's part that slides into the ballhead's AS clamp better than the Induro. 

The Sidekick is fine for the weight of the 500mm.  The most important part of this setup is a robust ballhead.  From my experience, the ballhead's weight capacity should be at least 39 lbs and more.  If you have the budget, the Wimberley II head is the best solution.  The Wimberley II's weight capacity is 150lbs.  The problem with the full gimbal is taking it off and putting it back on the tripod when you need just a ballhead.  The on and off places a strain on the tripod mount screw.   

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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2012, 08:04:00 PM »
I used a sidekick for a couple of years with a 300 f2.8 and then a 600f4.  It does the job... ok.  My father in Law has a 500f4 which I have also used on a sidekick and it is still just OK. 

About 2 months ago I upgraded to a WH200 Wimberley and I will never look back.  It makes my 600mm f4+1DIV feel feather light.  The panning is so smooth and effortless. 

It is a couple hundred cheaper then the RRS and every bit as good.  Also if you want to switch setups and clamp in your L-Bracket on your camera body there is a simple $80 Wimberley adapter to do so.  Easy to use and even allows you to back it up to some degree to eliminate parallax when shooting panos.

To really make this the ultimate setup I installed a RRS leveling base.  It is so easy to level my setup now.  No more extending legs back and forth.  I can take a few steps with my 600 mounted and have a level setup in under 2 seconds. 

You will spend a little more to do all of this, but if you are hoping to support a 500 f4 adequately then you should seriously consider the upgrade.  You will not be disappointed, and will end up selling your BH55. 




Seems to be a 20% cheaper version of the Wimberley Sidekick.  I'd check out Wimberley's page on full gimbal vs. side mount to help your decision.

Personally, I think the full gimbal is the better choice (and I like the RRS version for the added flexibility of conversion to nodal pano head, although an additional $140 clamp is needed).

The sidekick seems like a better model. I like the rrs gimbal but isn't it like $800? Lol I'm looking for something that can maybe clamp on or something so I don't have to change heads if the tripod which isn't a big deal but of course a full gimbal would be much more sturdy

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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2012, 08:31:37 PM »
I like the rrs gimbal but isn't it like $800? Lol I'm looking for something that can maybe clamp on or something so I don't have to change heads if the tripod which isn't a big deal but of course a full gimbal would be much more sturdy

It's not cheap, true.  But if you have a need to do nodal panos, it's cheaper than a full gimbal and a nodal setup. Else, save $200 and get the Wimberley II. For a 500mm lens, I'd go with a full gimbal over a side mount.

The Sidekick is fine for the weight of the 500mm.  The most important part of this setup is a robust ballhead.  From my experience, the ballhead's weight capacity should be at least 39 lbs and more.  If you have the budget, the Wimberley II head is the best solution.  The Wimberley II's weight capacity is 150lbs. 

It's not just about load capacity. You also have to mount the lens into the clamp and balance it - with a full gimbal the cradle supports the lens while you do that, but with a side mount, you have support the lens with one hand while you mount it, and that can be hard with a longer lens.

The problem with the full gimbal is taking it off and putting it back on the tripod when you need just a ballhead.  The on and off places a strain on the tripod mount screw.   

It's an added cost (of course), but RRS offers a leveling base with an integrated clamp, and dovetail plates for heads (the 40mm one fits the Wimberley II) - that allows fast switching between ballhead and gimbal.  Or, with the RRS full gimbal, you can slide the FAS clamp onto the vertical rail (same way you'd set up a pano) and mount the camera's L-bracket to the gimbal.
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Re: Induro Gimbal Hold A 500mm?
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2012, 08:35:28 PM »
Hmm well I have 2 tripods that can hold the biggests lens etc, and have the ball head and then an off center balk head. Of courselves  off center would never work with a super tele and the bh55 holds it but I'd like the gimbal aspect. So, even though the bh55 is awesome maybe selling that and just getting the full 200 would be better. Either way for the rrs or wim full it's like $600-800 which is more than I want to spend but would prolly be better in the long run. I just dont want to carry basically 2 set ups as far as 2 tripods and 2 heads plus gear bag haha.

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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2012, 08:38:05 PM »
"but RRS offers a leveling base with an integrated clamp, and dovetail plates for heads (the 40mm one fits the Wimberley II) - that allows fast switching between ballhead and gimbal."

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Re: Induro Gimbal Hold A 500mm?
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2012, 08:45:54 PM »
"but RRS offers a leveling base with an integrated clamp, and dovetail plates for heads (the 40mm one fits the Wimberley II) - that allows fast switching between ballhead and gimbal."

What is it??

This is what I use:
TA-3-LB: Versa 3 LB with Platform

I have a Gitzo series 3 tripod.  They have other bases depending on what you have.  With this base, and a full gimball, you don't need two tripods.  This one setup will do it all!  (Provided you buy the $80 adapter to clamp into an L Plate)

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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2012, 09:00:47 PM »
Haha that things cool! So you attached one head to that and then if you switch just pops off and change?

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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2012, 09:11:22 PM »
Yes.  but personally I don't really like the dovetail, it has a tiny bit of play.

I opted for this one: http://reallyrightstuff.com/ProductDesc.aspx?code=TA-3-LB&type=4&eq=TA3LB-001&desc=TA-3-LB%3a-Versa-3-LB-with-Platform&key=ait

I permanently attached my Wimberley WH200 to it and when I want to mount my camera body to it I use this accessory: http://www.tripodhead.com/products/WH-Accessories.cfm Scroll down to see the "module 8"

I prefer the full gimball over the ballhead for shooting landscapes and such.  Much better for shooting panos especially when you are shooting multiple levels. 

I will never use a ballhead again for anything....

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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2012, 09:31:48 PM »
I thought about that as far as just using the wimberly as the primary head but didn't know how well it'd work for landscape etc but that doesn't seem like to bad of a set up!

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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2012, 09:38:18 PM »
I thought the same thing at first.  I held onto my BH55 for a couple weeks.  Now I prefer the wimberley (as long as you use a leveling base).  But thats just me, and I'm sure that there are some who would disagree.

I use my wimberley for real estate photography in addition to wildlife.  I've shot a dozen houses with it and love it.   :)



I thought about that as far as just using the wimberly as the primary head but didn't know how well it'd work for landscape etc but that doesn't seem like to bad of a set up!

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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2012, 09:41:59 PM »
I'm sure people give some weird looks haha but sense it has the camera plates and stuff and adjust a tripod to level is no big deal so the full gimbal might just be the way to go

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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2012, 09:41:59 PM »