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Is anybody else drooling over the new Fuji X-E1?
« on: September 07, 2012, 09:32:24 AM »
That is the style camera that Canon should introduce for their M system, together with some very high quality but small and fast zoom and prime lenses.

Also, is it my imagination or does the M-system lens mount have one more pin than the EF lens mount, perhaps for controlling lens zoom from the body?

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Is anybody else drooling over the new Fuji X-E1?
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Re: Is anybody else drooling over the new Fuji X-E1?
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2012, 10:32:35 AM »
Not really, The EOS M can use all my existing lenses when it's released. Why bother?

As long as I have manual control, the camera doesn't matter much.

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Re: Is anybody else drooling over the new Fuji X-E1?
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2012, 10:37:18 AM »

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It's a nice size and look, but you'd have to get a few light years down the road to induce "drooling" for me.

While dpreview was talking about autofocus in this quote:

"We're not convinced it can yet match the very best of its mirrorless peers, but Fujifilm has made a step in the right direction, and that has to be applauded."

I'd suggest it's a good overall summary of the product.

It's just one more faltering step on the the industry's way to more useful picture making machinery.
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Re: Is anybody else drooling over the new Fuji X-E1?
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2012, 11:22:28 AM »
"It's a nice size and look, but you'd have to get a few light years down the road to induce "drooling" for me."

Really? Have you ever shot one?

I have the X-Pro1 with the 35mm (53mm equivalent) and the 18mm (28mm equivalent).
It's a fantastic camera and I much prefer it to my 5D MK3 with ANY L lens I own.
The fact that it can even come close in image quality to the MK3 is staggering.

It a wonderful walk around camera, perfect for street photography, takes amazing portraits and the fact that Fuji can make such an incredible lens in the 35mm and sell it for $600 compared to $1500+ for Canon's 50 L 1.2 (which is soft everywhere compared to the Fuji) is something to be admired.

There is a big firmware upgrade available on September 18th that supposedly cures the autofocus ills, card writing speed and everything else people complained about.

With the XE-1, they are going to kill every other mirror-less offering out there because they are going to give you X-Pro 1 features for $1000 rather than $1700.

Canon M, that's no better than a Nikon J IMHO...

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Lots of professionals switching from DSLRs to Fuji here: http://www.scoop.it/t/fuji-x-pro1
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Re: Is anybody else drooling over the new Fuji X-E1?
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2012, 11:24:29 AM »
It is just another manufacturer's entry that makes the EOS M look stupid.  It has an EVF and built-in popup flash.  At least in other parts of the world, Canon is including the external flash with the camera (not here in the US).  The Fuji X-E1 kit also includes a 28-80 equivalent f2.8-4 zoom instead of the usual f3.5-5.6 uber slow zooms that most include...

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Re: Is anybody else drooling over the new Fuji X-E1?
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2012, 11:33:58 AM »
The 2.8-4 zoom is indeed killer, and indeed got me excited. Why pay nearly the same for the worthless 3.5-5.6 madness?!?!? 50mm at 5.6 is not very attractive for much. Drop it down to f4, and things begin to separate from the background...
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Re: Is anybody else drooling over the new Fuji X-E1?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2012, 11:34:31 AM »
Really? Have you ever shot one?

So, what ultrawide lens, 100 mm macro lens or telephoto lens can you stick onto the x-e1 or x-pro1? :)

The fact that it can even come close in image quality to the MK3 is staggering

What software do you use to process the RAW files? Or do you only shoot in jpeg? :)

It a wonderful walk around camera, perfect for street photography, takes amazing portraits and the fact that Fuji can make such an incredible lens in the 35mm and sell it for $600 compared to $1500+ for Canon's 50 L 1.2 (which is soft everywhere compared to the Fuji) is something to be admired.

Errr... can you name one Fuji lens that offers the same depth of field as the 50 f/1.2L?

With the XE-1, they are going to kill every other mirror-less offering out there because they are going to give you X-Pro 1 features for $1000 rather than $1700.

I'll pick the OM-D with its wide selection of lenses and fast AF any day over the XE-1.

Canon M, that's no better than a Nikon J IMHO...

The EOS M is a major FLOP compared to all other mirrorless offerings from Olympus/Panasonic/Sony/Fujifilm. Lousy imaging sensor. Poor selection of lenses (excluding the massive EF/EF-S stuff). Hopelessly slow AF.

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Re: Is anybody else drooling over the new Fuji X-E1?
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Re: Is anybody else drooling over the new Fuji X-E1?
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2012, 11:59:24 AM »
Woody, Fuji has a 60mm macro lens.
I'll let our friend Ken Rockwell describe it :)

http://kenrockwell.com/fuji/x-mount-lenses/60mm-f24.htm

The X-Pro 1 has a macro mode available using any lens...

The MK3 is FF while the X-Pro 1 is 1.5 crop, so no, it's not going to give the same depth of field as a 1.2L on a MK3, but it will give a far sharper image @ F/1.4 :)
I own both cameras and both lenses and if you don't believe me - go rent one ;)

The Fuji can give the Leica M9 a good run for a 1/4 of the money.
It weighs a lot less than a 5D MK3 + 50mm 1.2 and more importantly, it doesn't make me stand out in a crowd, which in some of the neighborhoods I shoot on the street in San Francisco is very important.

Yes, we all know the X-Trans sensor is a bitch to program to so Lightroom doesn't support RAW for Fuji yet - it will be coming as the system finds wider adoption.
As many pros have found out, the out of camera JPGs are also excellent.

Personally, I only shoot in black and white.
I shoot RAW + JPG and PP RAW using Silver Efex Pro 2 using my JPG image as a reference.
For my needs, it works great and gives results every bit as good as the MK3.

Different tools for different needs.
The 5D MK3 is not a good tool for street photography.
The Fuji X series is.

Remember, I said "The fact that it can even come close in image quality to the MK3 is staggering".

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Re: Is anybody else drooling over the new Fuji X-E1?
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2012, 12:59:09 PM »
To answer the original question, I'm not sure I'm drooling over the new Fuji, but I definitely am interested and wish Canon were equally innovative in this area.

No, it's not going to replace my DSLR and selection of Canon lenses, but that's not the point.

I don't find the G1-X interesting (lens too slow, mediocre viewfinder, unappealing aspect ratio). The M series is a non-starter without a viewfinder and, besides, I'd have to buy new lenses to use it anyway, so why not look at competitors. I'm not going to put a 100-400 zoom on an M series camera even if I can, so my DSLR lens collection is a bit irrelevant in that regard.

I'm waiting to hear how the viewfinder performs on the new X-E1. That's going to be the real test as far as I'm concerned. On paper it sounds great, but what is it like in the real world?

I think the point is that with each new offering, Fuji seems to be getting closer to what I want in a carry-around-always-with-me camera. Canon and Nikon are offering compacts that I don't find interesting or useful. No, it's not a DSLR replacement. But as a supplement, I'm very interested. And, yes, I admit that the beautiful design of the Fujis is appealing. Most of the mirrorless offering are just plain ugly and if I'm going to be carrying something around most of the time, it might as well be nice looking.
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Re: Is anybody else drooling over the new Fuji X-E1?
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2012, 03:17:08 PM »
I prefer to have my DSLR AF speed over any existing Mirrorless ( except M9) anytime.

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Re: Is anybody else drooling over the new Fuji X-E1?
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2012, 03:25:28 PM »
WATCH OUT !

There have been a number of recent threads with out of control posts.  Refering to a poster as "Drunk", for example is not acceptable.

If someone does not agree with you, thats ok, no need to call names or belittle him.

Thanks :)

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Re: Is anybody else drooling over the new Fuji X-E1?
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2012, 03:53:50 PM »
Unfocused, you nailed it mate.

I'm not saying that the Fuji will replace my DSLR and lenses either.
If I was going that route, it would be a Leica M10 for me, however I just splurged on a 24mm F/1.4L II to add to my collection, so I think my Canon affair isn't over quite yet.

However, the Fuji gives very Leica-esque pictures and handling.
There are a number of excellent reviews, the best being Reid Reviews, where he compares the M9, M Monochrome, X-Pro 1 and x100.
The Fuji's hold up well and even better the Leica's in a number of areas (hi ISO/low light being one of them).

For someone who lusts over a Leica M series camera but cannot justify the cost (I'm one of them), the Fuji is an amazing deal.

With the announcement of new firmware and the XE-1, things are only going to get better.
Remember as well, not all mirror-less cameras are created equal.
Some are more computer than analog film camera.
Personally, I love the retro styling and function and for a walk around camera for street photography, it is amazing.

My $0.02

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BTW, Rocky, the M9 is 100% manual focus ;)
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Re: Is anybody else drooling over the new Fuji X-E1?
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2012, 05:55:30 PM »
My wife was always complain the weight of my 5D2(now 5D3).  Thus, I was looking for a compact camera for her.  I was so interested in X-Pro1.  X-Pro1 has really good reviews and the images on flicker are amazing.  However, the price of X-Pro1 is too expensive.  Now the new X-E1 is out and is much affordable.  Hopefully the IQ will just as good as X-Pro1.
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Re: Is anybody else drooling over the new Fuji X-E1?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2012, 03:04:28 AM »
WATCH OUT !

There have been a number of recent threads with out of control posts.  Refering to a poster as "Drunk", for example is not acceptable.

If someone does not agree with you, thats ok, no need to call names or belittle him.

Thanks :)

I actually just asked, but fair enough ;D
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Re: Is anybody else drooling over the new Fuji X-E1?
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2012, 09:13:54 AM »
I think the problem is that it spirals out of control quickly by others who seek to outdo the original post.

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