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Re: Sony RX1 Full Frame sensor Compact leaked photos / rumor
« Reply #45 on: September 23, 2012, 03:22:51 PM »
Sample images:

http://www.sony.jp/cyber-shot/lineup/DSC-RX1_photo-sample.html

They look amazing to me. The Zeiss lens has a very nice bokeh and color rendition.

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« Reply #45 on: September 23, 2012, 03:22:51 PM »

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« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2012, 08:30:15 PM »
Sample images:

http://www.sony.jp/cyber-shot/lineup/DSC-RX1_photo-sample.html

They look amazing to me. The Zeiss lens has a very nice bokeh and color rendition.

Shutter speed for the first photo was 2 sec and 3.2 sec for second photo.  Even fastest shutter speed used was 1/25.  I agree the photos are nice, but looks like they had the camera on tripod with likely very careful and deliberate technique.  I would like to see more real-world, hand-held shots myself  ;D


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Re: Sony RX1 Full Frame sensor Compact leaked photos / rumor
« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2012, 09:38:11 PM »
6D + pancake.  Yummier!

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Re: Sony RX1 Full Frame sensor Compact leaked photos / rumor
« Reply #49 on: November 29, 2012, 09:47:23 PM »
Sony must done something right to already have people comparing it directly to the 5d3 ::)

So, if I compare it to my disposable 35mm Kodak, what does that tell you about Sony?
Anyone can compare any product to any other.

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Re: Sony RX1 Full Frame sensor Compact leaked photos / rumor
« Reply #50 on: November 29, 2012, 10:54:55 PM »
Sony must done something right to already have people comparing it directly to the 5d3 ::)

So, if I compare it to my disposable 35mm Kodak, what does that tell you about Sony?
Anyone can compare any product to any other.

I gave my five-year-old niece one of those Kodak "disposable" cameras at Thanksgiving to take pictures of the day. She did a pretty good job, and the prints are surprisingly good.
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« Reply #51 on: November 29, 2012, 11:27:50 PM »
Comparing a 5DMK3 + 40mm pancake to this is ridiculous.
It's about size, weight and stealth if you are into street photography.

I have a 5DMK3 + 40mm pancake and it's just too heavy and too damn obvious compared to my Fuji X-Pro 1.
Use the right tool for the right job.

Me, I prefer the Fuji and have ordered a Leica M.
The Canon I'll keep for taking pictures of my kid ;)

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Re: Sony RX1 Full Frame sensor Compact leaked photos / rumor
« Reply #51 on: November 29, 2012, 11:27:50 PM »

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Re: Sony RX1 Full Frame sensor Compact leaked photos / rumor
« Reply #52 on: November 30, 2012, 12:33:27 AM »
It's about size, weight and stealth if you are into street photography.

Your opinion about the "right tool" for street photography is your opinion about what works for you and you alone.

There are as many "right tools" and different ways of doing street photography as there are people with visual recording devices.

Your way of doing street photography is not my way of doing street photography. Please do not make such statements.
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Re: Sony RX1 Full Frame sensor Compact leaked photos / rumor
« Reply #53 on: November 30, 2012, 12:57:56 AM »
Sony made this for one reason..because they can.
If you don't like it don't buy it.
People who will buy this buy it because they know they want it. There's no need to compare it to anything because there isn't anything like it. If you need to compare, chances are your won't buy it anyways right?

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Re: Sony RX1 Full Frame sensor Compact leaked photos / rumor
« Reply #54 on: November 30, 2012, 01:17:55 AM »
Concerning the price, I think many of you forget there's a Zeiss 35mm f/2 in front of that tiny thing :)
It's a Zeiss that costs 800-1000 tops!

What I heard though, is that's no Zeiss lens, it's a design collaboration between Zeiss and Sony, Sony made the lens with some Zeiss expertise, or just enough support to justify slapping a Zeiss logo on the thing. If it were actually a Zeiss lens, the RX1 wouldn't be $2800

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Re: Sony RX1 Full Frame sensor Compact leaked photos / rumor
« Reply #55 on: November 30, 2012, 02:24:15 AM »
This is just awesome, I applaud you sony.

+1 Absolutely. SOny might have some odd "standards" but they showed a long time ago that they are SERIOUS about digital photography, and back in the day I had ALL the dsc-p# cameras from Sony, (P10 my absolute favorite) Sync flash at 1/1000s and of the very best looking cameras around. Plus they were about 50 million times faster than the Ixus's.

Sony, you might not be best at everything, but you have the biggest balls and push everyone  else and always go where no concervative Canon or Nikon man will go. Awesome!!! I've been waiting for FF (digital) compact since, hm, ever?

Glad  to see that there are number of people who understand what it is all about in general prospective.
  It was my dream as well to have compact high quality FF mirrorless camera with one of the best lenses so that I could always carry it with me.   And I am very glad to see that achievement from Sony.  It could be  very good complement to the 1Dx – I can use 1Dx for specialty shoots using different telephoto  lenses and RX1 as second camera with normal fixed lens – so I do not need to bother to change lenses on 1Dx when I need wider angle lens and  high quality image.
  To my view this is kind of conceptual camera to show what Sony is capable of now and I think their goal is to show their technologies in action thus putting milestone in digital cameras evolution. Sometimes this is more important than making profit at the very beginning.   Similar to what goldminers were doing in Alaska at earlier times   - putting marks that they reach this territory ahead of others and this is their territory.   Also to do all that in compact body is much bigger challenge and costs more than to do the same in the body which is twice or even more bigger .  Also big challenge is lens optic design for short distance between lens and FF sensor so that all light is fully captured by sensor pixels - to ensure  that light rays are fully orthogonal to the sensor surface at any pixel location on the sensor. And for faster lenses  this is much more difficult than for slow lens. Also this is lens with lens shutter - which is more  common for MF lenses  than for FF lenses (e.g. Schneider Kreuznach  leaf shutter lenses for Phase One 645dDF+ system http://www.phaseone.com/en/Camera-Systems/Leaf-Shutter-Lenses.aspx). Only this one is a big difference itself . Also low light performance should be at least 1/3 better than for new Sony A99 as there is no translucent mirror between lens and sensor.
 For me they just captured industry trend (pretty much that is something that you could “feel” in the air) at early stage  and embodied that in RX1.  And  long term evolution vector is towards mirrorless FF cameras with high quality phase detection AF directly on the sensor.   Technologies are already here.  It is now just matter of time and money to put all that in production.  I am sure that in some near  future we will see  number  FF mirrorless compact  cameras having phase detection AF  points all over the  frame  and not only in central area of the frame.
  I think that in some  time we will see pretty interesting review of this camera from Michael Reichmann on www.luminous-landscape.com. There is also already one availble on dpreview - http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-cybershot-dsc-rx1/
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Re: Sony RX1 Full Frame sensor Compact leaked photos / rumor
« Reply #56 on: November 30, 2012, 05:38:05 AM »

this may not be the most objective site but it's worth a deeper look though (is there anybody objective out there?): http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2012/11/21/the-sony-rx1-digital-camera-review-part-1-an-intro-to-a-compact-powerhouse/

The RX1 is not about instead, it's about as well. I very much enjoy using the 5 D and the shorty-fourty. But to me it goes without saying the RX1 would be a much better choice for street photography. It escapes my why people are that much up in arms about the anouncement of the RX1. There's no obligation to spend 3k and buy one but one could feel tempted to ponder on why Canon shows this conspicuous lack of innovation.

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Re: Sony RX1 Full Frame sensor Compact leaked photos / rumor
« Reply #57 on: November 30, 2012, 06:20:07 AM »
Downloaded and checked RX1 raw files from DPReview  -  image IQ is so good  – nothing comparable I believe in such form factor and beating out  many FF DSLRs.
  Here are snapshots for iso50, iso1600 and iso3200 from Capture One screen using Win7 snippet tool (C1 7.01 already has preliminary support for RX1). No adjustements - C1 default setting.
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« Reply #58 on: November 30, 2012, 06:22:08 AM »
And here is an  example of RX1  DR range – shadows recovery at iso50

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Re: Sony RX1 Full Frame sensor Compact leaked photos / rumor
« Reply #59 on: November 30, 2012, 06:48:16 AM »

this may not be the most objective site but it's worth a deeper look though (is there anybody objective out there?): http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2012/11/21/the-sony-rx1-digital-camera-review-part-1-an-intro-to-a-compact-powerhouse/
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Thanks, very interesting article.
Author is right telling that "It is REVOLUTIONARY instead of EVOLUTIONARY".
This is what I was meaning in my post  telling that they are putting milestone in digital cameras evolution process. Somthing drastically different and starting point of new path in cameras evolution. Step up from what we have now on the market

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« Reply #59 on: November 30, 2012, 06:48:16 AM »