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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2012, 11:26:40 AM »
Can't you (or a Canon service center) reinstall the original software/firmware if something goes wrong?

Sure, there's always a risk with 3rd party software, but there are also rewards. You do the research and weigh the pros and cons. Anyone who says all 3rd party software is bad is making uneducated assumptions.

Oh my.. Better get rid of photoshop!! It's 3rd party software - on both Mac and pc.

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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2012, 11:26:40 AM »

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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2012, 11:42:31 AM »
Can't you (or a Canon service center) reinstall the original software/firmware if something goes wrong?


It doesn't replace the Canon firmware. It runs alongside side it off of the CF card. It doesn't install anything "into" your camera, so shouldn't be a problem.

This is about as true as the original post. ML involves having to change the firmware on your camera so that it will boot the ML software off the SD/CF card. However, that's the only change to the firmware which is made, so it almost certainly wont cause any problems, I've installed various versions of ML onto three cameras and its always been fine.

If you don't install the software onto the card you're using you'll be able to use the camera without ML if you decide you don't want to use any of the additional features.

FWIW I still have moments with my 5DIII where I get slightly confused as to why it doesn't do something I feel it should before remembering that it's one of the many extra features ML provides, not something built in (the last one was increasing the gain on the headphone output).

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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2012, 12:23:40 PM »
I put ML on my 60d, and it worked fine, no problems. I have since removed it just because I dont do anything with video, and for stills it is not that useful. Update your factory firmware first even if the version is the same (i had to do this to my 60d)
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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2012, 12:37:49 PM »
Agreed. Especially by now, unless you're living on the bleeding edge, should be just fine.

Speaking of bleeding edge: ml alpha for 5d3 is out :-) ... but this is the kind that can brick your camera, unlike the very stable release versions. Still: "Good news, everyone!" ... http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=2602.0
Too bad, a error message on that page.  Not much information for ML on 5D3.  I really miss ML after I upgrade my 5D2 to 5D3.
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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2012, 01:03:52 PM »
Too bad, a error message on that page.

You have to be a supporter (i.e. pay some $$$ once) to get early access, or compile it yourself. But if you want a stable, feature-complete ml release on the 5d3 you'll have to wait some month anyway, this one is just the first alpha.

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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2012, 01:43:44 PM »
Too bad, a error message on that page.

You have to be a supporter (i.e. pay some $$$ once) to get early access, or compile it yourself. But if you want a stable, feature-complete ml release on the 5d3 you'll have to wait some month anyway, this one is just the first alpha.
Ha!  I have paid once for the latest version for my 5D2.  I may paid it again when ML has the final (stable) release for 5D3.
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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2012, 01:54:35 PM »
Ha!  I have paid once for the latest version for my 5D2.  I may paid it again when ML has the final (stable) release for 5D3.

Create a login in the forum, write them a mail and they'll add you to the "supporter" group giving you access.

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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2012, 01:54:35 PM »

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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2012, 02:03:54 PM »
Ha!  I have paid once for the latest version for my 5D2.  I may paid it again when ML has the final (stable) release for 5D3.

Create a login in the forum, write them a mail and they'll add you to the "supporter" group giving you access.

Thanks!  I will do that.
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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2012, 02:17:04 PM »
I put ML on my 60d, and it worked fine, no problems. I have since removed it just because I dont do anything with video, and for stills it is not that useful.
I dunno, I actually still like the focus peaking in my stills work, especially for tougher landscape shots. And if I did more macro work, the focus stacking feature is awesome.

Kinda curious how the latest release improves the timelapse/bulb-ramping. The tests I saw were great

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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2012, 02:19:23 PM »
Ha!  I have paid once for the latest version for my 5D2.  I may paid it again when ML has the final (stable) release for 5D3.

Create a login in the forum, write them a mail and they'll add you to the "supporter" group giving you access.

Thanks!  I will do that.

Hey Marsu,
Thanks man!  They add me to supporter group in a minute after I PM Alex.
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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2012, 02:20:53 PM »
Agreed. Especially by now, unless you're living on the bleeding edge, should be just fine.

Speaking of bleeding edge: ml alpha for 5d3 is out :-) ... but this is the kind that can brick your camera, unlike the very stable release versions. Still: "Good news, everyone!" ... http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=2602.0
Too bad, a error message on that page.  Not much information for ML on 5D3.  I really miss ML after I upgrade my 5D2 to 5D3.

Sweet! Great news =D   I think I'll wait for it to move to beta before trying it out. I still have my 5d2 around with ML on it, which I really need to play with a lot more.
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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2012, 12:52:35 AM »
Wow, I just had an innocent enough question followed by some website research ... but had no idea some folks out there would be so spiteful in return for no apparent reason. Sheeesh.

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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2012, 01:27:08 AM »
Wow, I just had an innocent enough question followed by some website research ... but had no idea some folks out there would be so spiteful in return for no apparent reason. Sheeesh.

Who's spiteful? I read a bunch of people chiming in saying "I haven't seen a problem" and "Works great for me" and "Stability is just fine" as well as a fairly reasonable set of positives about it.

Spiteful would be more saying you're a troll looking to bash something you haven't tried out or researched well, and just want the attention and we need the smite back simply for users like you.

But I'm not saying that, nor really meaning it. Just simply noticing you've had 3 posts, all in this thread, and all in the negative about a single 3rd party firmware that, while it has had problems in the past and undoubtedly in the future, generally doesn't brick or permanently damage the cameras users try and use it on. Oh, and Canon's firmware isn't perfect either. Virtually every update includes fixes to bugs that affects a small number of users that can be a real problem.

Personally, I haven't read anything anywhere that there is a strong possibility it will damage a camera with the exception of possibly some early, early builds for newly supported cameras. But they do warn you multiple times about those releases. For the rest, they simply say something to the affect of "By the way, this isn't officially Canon sanctioned, and while we haven't had any trouble, nor hundreds of other users for this release, it's at your own risk."
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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2012, 01:27:08 AM »

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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2012, 03:41:40 AM »
Custom firmwares is the best thing that ever happened to Canon cameras!
I absolutely love ML 2.3 on the 5d2.
I even love 400plus on my XTi. It gives PROPER auto-ISO and a bunch of other cool stuff like spot metering, fully customizable intervalometer, bracketing (3-9 shots), long exposures from 15 seconds to 100 minutes.. the list goes on and on...

Plus ML is open source and constantly evolving.
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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2012, 05:53:24 AM »
It works very well on my 500d. You can find a lot of features.
But I am not sure I will install it on 5dMkII.
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Re: Magic Lantern Firmware - Good or Bad?
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2012, 05:53:24 AM »