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Re: Is a 46mp Canon EOS-1 on the Way? [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2012, 10:07:15 AM »
In my opinion, if Canon does not launch an cheaper model around 2500-3000€ with 35+MP, they will loose a lot of photographers.

Are they 'losing a lot of photographers' to the D800 now?   ::)

Yes

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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2012, 10:07:15 AM »

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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2012, 10:09:54 AM »
In my opinion, if Canon does not launch an cheaper model around 2500-3000€ with 35+MP, they will loose a lot of photographers.

Are they 'losing a lot of photographers' to the D800 now?   ::)
No, not yet, but if you were new to the pro market it's a tough choice between the D800 and the 5D3.  I guess one lends itself to the wedding market and the other to the landscape market but if I was starting from scratch the Nikon is a compelling camera
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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2012, 10:12:07 AM »
they will loose a lot of photographers.

A few gearheads maybe - those MPs have little effect for most jobs; good lenses, technique or a phase one IQ180+leaf shutter  have more impact.

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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2012, 10:21:29 AM »
Well that means some complete redesigns of their L glass as there will be no benefit to having 46MP if the lenses cannot resolve enough to take advantage of it.  Unfortunately that means probably a 5000.00 price tag for a revised 24-70 L lens.

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Re: Is a 46mp Canon EOS-1 on the Way? [CR1]
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2012, 10:31:33 AM »
An EOS-1?  When are they going to stop building these bodies with the grip permanently built-in?

Never, I hope. 

Put a removable grip on a body. Hold the body in one hand, the grip in the other. Move your hands. Feel the flex?

With a regular grip, yes.  With a grip like on the 1V, no.

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« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2012, 10:33:06 AM »
An EOS-1?  When are they going to stop building these bodies with the grip permanently built-in?

Never, I hope. 

Put a removable grip on a body. Hold the body in one hand, the grip in the other. Move your hands. Feel the flex?  Now...put an AS-type plate or L-bracket  on the bottom of the grip, mount it on a solid tripod. That flex translates to vibration, and vibration costs sharpness.  Oh, just remove the grip? Very inconvenient, for me.

Love the integrated grip of the digital 1-series bodies!

I fully agree. When you need a main battle tank you don't want a truck with the addition of some armoured plates. An integrated full body is something very different from a battery grip. I have a 1Ds MkIII and a 5D MkII. When I need something totally reliable and balanced without compromise I haven't any doubt and go for the 1Ds.

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Re: Is a 46mp Canon EOS-1 on the Way? [CR1]
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2012, 10:40:29 AM »
In my opinion, if Canon does not launch an cheaper model around 2500-3000€ with 35+MP, they will loose a lot of photographers.

Are they 'losing a lot of photographers' to the D800 now?   ::)

Yes

I don't know how many they've lost so far, but if this rumor turns out to be true, I'm guessing they'll lose a few more.

I'm a landscape guy, and often end up chatting with other landscape shooters in the field, for example waiting at a spot waiting for sunset.  I've had about half a dozen people in the last few months tell me they were seriously interested in getting the D800, but were first waiting to see what Canon came up with.  Plus I've seen the same comments from other landscape people on forums. 

If this EOS-1 is the only high MP camera announced any time soon, and if it's priced as high as some of us suspect, it'd be interesting to see how many actually switch.  I sure some will, especially to use with Nikon's 14-24.  But some will change their mind once they factor in having to buy Nikon glass and accessories.  Obviously I'm simplifying things, as there's a bunch of other factors that like ergonomics, which lenses these individuals have vs. Nikon equivalents etc.

Although it's looking like the 'Canon glass is cheaper' argument isn't as valid anymore for the top new lenses, given the latest prices (e.g., 24-70 II).  It'll be interesting to see what older L-glass performs well with that kind of resolution; I've read arguments on both sides, but don't have the technical background to know which side is true.

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Re: Is a 46mp Canon EOS-1 on the Way? [CR1]
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2012, 10:40:29 AM »

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Re: Is a 46mp Canon EOS-1 on the Way? [CR1]
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2012, 10:44:14 AM »
46MP? Almost an 8000 x 6000 Pixel size? That's crazy for 35mm.

http://web.forret.com/tools/megapixel.asp?width=7935&height=5800

Look at the estimated sizes for the files.
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« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2012, 10:44:27 AM »
As long as they realise this needs to beat, not just match, the Nikon D800E, then its on my wish list. Hopefully this will be the updated 1Ds I've been waiting for, with world class DR, mind blowing resolution, and none of the irritating banding issues or pattern noise problems besetting all the existing bodies.

Interesting how long its taken Canon to respond to Nikons D800E, when they must have known about it a long time before the average joe did, gagging orders or no gagging orders.   

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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2012, 11:01:49 AM »
As long as they realise this needs to beat, not just match, the Nikon D800E, then its on my wish list. Hopefully this will be the updated 1Ds I've been waiting for, with world class DR, mind blowing resolution, and none of the irritating banding issues or pattern noise problems besetting all the existing bodies.

Interesting how long its taken Canon to respond to Nikons D800E, when they must have known about it a long time before the average joe did, gagging orders or no gagging orders.

I would think it would beat the D800E, canon has been holding back for a reason.

This would be the long waited 1Ds replacement.

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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2012, 11:04:53 AM »
The Nikon D800 with it's 36MP sensor produces 75MB RAW files, so a 46MP sensor would result in files sizes of around 100 megabytes per shot, so a 1-2 second burst could fill 1 Gigabyte of your CF card! A longer series of rapid burst could theoretically fill an entire 16Gb memory card. Not to mention increased storage costs/problems.

I'd prefer a 24MP to 27MP cheaper FF body for now (so I could upgrade from a 7D)

Anything between 26-40mp and i'm happy, though i would prefer 26-30mp

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« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2012, 11:17:57 AM »
Again, do,'t need it, so not very interested. Need high ISO performance way more than high MP... ::)
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« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2012, 11:25:07 AM »
I hope they never stop making them with Built in Grips.. thats the reason I havent bought a 5D, I hate add on grips.


An EOS-1?  When are they going to stop building these bodies with the grip permanently built-in?  I'll never, ever buy one until they go back to how the 1V was built with a high-end removable grip.

If it looks like any of the 1-series digitals, I'm not interested.



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« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2012, 11:27:13 AM »
In my opinion, if Canon does not launch an cheaper model around 2500-3000€ with 35+MP, they will loose a lot of photographers.

Are they 'losing a lot of photographers' to the D800 now?   ::)

Yes

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Can you please post a link to the sales figures/reports/ranking that back up that claim?
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Re: Is a 46mp Canon EOS-1 on the Way? [CR1]
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2012, 11:32:31 AM »
In my opinion, if Canon does not launch an cheaper model around 2500-3000€ with 35+MP, they will loose a lot of photographers.

Are they 'losing a lot of photographers' to the D800 now?   ::)

Yes

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Can you please post a link to the sales figures/reports/ranking that back up that claim?

Why? You post sales figures that they're not. That is the clear implication of your question.

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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2012, 11:32:31 AM »