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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #210 on: September 14, 2012, 05:16:33 PM »
Are your photographic skills so great that you are limited by the current camera technology?

Come on people, it not the technology that makes a great images, it's the content.

Well, I for one am not a genius at getting proper exposure every time and I am just very, very weary of fixing the noise that I get with my 60D and 7D sensors.  So, given I'm not going to grow any more brain cells, I need all the technological help I can get.

I think there is a misconception with some people's comments, for me, I want bang for my buck and that's the stem of my complaints with these specs on the Canon 6D are about. The Nikon D600 is thus far trumping it and then some. But I think that there must be an understanding, the tech itself DOES NOT make you a great photographer, it is the skill of the hands the camera is in. I'm sorry to say that if you need "all the technological help" you can get. Then an advanced piece of equipment is not for you. Rebel is where you should stay until you're ready and confident to take the next leap. I have NEVER, NEVER used the Auto setting on my camera, as a matter of fact, I despise Auto even on point and shoots. I learned on film and back then I didn't have the conveniences of digital  which forced me to become a better photographer.  However minimal the specs are on the Canon 6D it will be full frame which in itself is a different animal. Good luck.

Wow, that was rather scathing.  All I am saying is that a better sensor is going to give me better image quality.  I was not saying it was going to help me with composition or artistry.  And quite frankly, I don't think the sensor in either the 60D or 7D is all that great compared to what Sony is making for Nikon.

Diane,
       One thing you said that I have to comment on, "a better sensor is going to give me better image quality."   I truly believe the current belief the less noise, the more ultra sharp an image is, the better the image is a fallacy of the current "generation" of photographers.   As they say, history repeats... do a google search for "pictorialists" and "straight" photography.  A lot of parallels can be drawn with the current "instagram" and "dslr (for a lack of a better term)" types of photography.  A cell phone camera image processed through instagram can stir and raise the same emotion as a dslr setup worth $7K.  Back to my original point, "Come on people, it not the technology that makes a great images, it's the content."

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #210 on: September 14, 2012, 05:16:33 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #211 on: September 14, 2012, 05:17:56 PM »
I was intrigued by that photo, so I downloaded a 5D III picture, and matched the size of the 24-105mm on both pictures. This is what it looks like. Significantly smaller than the 5D III. Looks like the deal.

If those specs are real, then that Nikon D600 + 24-85 kit lens are becoming more and more exciting.

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #212 on: September 14, 2012, 05:20:00 PM »
I just watched a movie (Salmon fishing in the Yemen) where the government PR chief in the beginning said something like "give me some piece of good news, something, anything to say"... the day after the D600 has been presented, even my aunt would have gotten some 6D specs published on canonrumors.  :-[

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #213 on: September 14, 2012, 05:21:32 PM »
  Back to my original point, "Come on people, it not the technology that makes a great images, it's the content."

I'll say it again ---it's NOT the content!!!!  Take a bad photog and give them wonderful subject matter and you fail fail fail.  Take a great photog and give them nothing and they may make you surprised!  Part of being a photog is having the 'eye,' and part of that is seeing things, spotting things, noticing things that others do not see.  A great photog can make a piece of trash look good - but a bad photog can make something that looks awesome appear to be a piece of trash..(ok, not said as i did originally)
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #214 on: September 14, 2012, 05:25:34 PM »
So everyone, compared to what Nikon's D600 is offering and based on the recently released specs and pics (real or not) what is the most you would pay for this camera?  I'm going with $1600.
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #215 on: September 14, 2012, 05:43:33 PM »
I'll say it again ---it's NOT the content!!!!

Not to dispute what you're saying - but that the discussion in a 6d specs thread heads into this direction proves that Canon might screw up big time if the price tag for the 6d is not a steal. But maybe they could add stickers to every camera box: "Please ignore the specs and the competition, it's all about you being a good photog!" :->

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« Reply #216 on: September 14, 2012, 05:50:05 PM »
  Back to my original point, "Come on people, it not the technology that makes a great images, it's the content."

I'll say it again ---it's NOT the content!!!!  Take a bad photog and give them wonderful subject matter and you fail fail fail.  Take a great photog and give them nothing and they may make you surprised!  Part of being a photog is having the 'eye,' and part of that is seeing things, spotting things, noticing things that others do not see.  A great photog can make a piece of trash look good - but a bad photog can make something that looks awesome appear to be a piece of trash..(ok, not said as i did originally)

Chuck,
    I didn't know we were aruging...  ;)

I agree with everything you said, but I think you are only seeing part of my point.  ...how about...  would you agree that a great image has more to do with content rather than the technology used to capture the image?  When I see a great image, the first thing that comes to mind is NOT what kind of camera was used.

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #216 on: September 14, 2012, 05:50:05 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #217 on: September 14, 2012, 05:50:22 PM »
an articulated screen is a priority!!!
i want to buy a cheap FF, but i won't if it doesn't have an articulated screen :(

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #218 on: September 14, 2012, 05:50:52 PM »
cpw has an image of the 6D.




Now this looks like a hires pic.

Two things are different. There is this nice little "lock" button on the mode dial. This is diffrent from the lower built EOS. This wasn't there on the 7D not on the 5D2. That was available as a 400 bucks upgrade.

The mode dial of the 60D is more rounded on top. This mode dial is different from 7D, 60D. Looks more like the one from 5D3.

The plastic covers of the connectors is different from the 60D or other EOS bodies. Looks like something new. Obvious if we assume that there is a GPS build in. A99 has built in GPS.

When I saw the first leaked 5D3 images from the safari guy, everyone doubted that it was a new body. Only the new M-FN button and the power on switch were revealing a new body.

I guess that the pic is true, but the specs must be wrong. The specs were changing all the time for the 5D3 too. Same applies to the 6D. Look back to the initial rumors of 2011 on 6D ;)

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #219 on: September 14, 2012, 05:54:39 PM »
BUILT-IN GPS & WIFI

!!!


WHAT TOOK THEM SO G*****N LONG?!?

(and yes - i'm yelling!!)


we can put gps in these teeny-tiny cellphones that teenage girls slip into their front pockets, it can connect to every wifi standard (PLUS cell ph tower) known to man.......... yet a ten pound canon 1DX can't seem to fit those tiny lil circuits into its MASSIVE body

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #220 on: September 14, 2012, 05:55:30 PM »
Shortest shutter speed is 1\4000 !!!!!!!!!!  :'( :'( :'(
They are CRAZY!!!!  >:( >:( >:(
Goodbye shooting with open iris (f\1.2-f\2) in a sunny day!  Or welcome a hemorrhoids with ND-filters!

P.S. Sorry for my english, i'm a russian wedding photographer.  :-[
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #221 on: September 14, 2012, 06:00:35 PM »
I am surprised about how much anger and disappointment is in these discussion.

I was always thinking that me, with my Olympus E-5 gear was on the poor side. Now I am noticing that the Canonians are no different. ;)

I am a two system owner and both vendors don't seem to get it right ...

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #222 on: September 14, 2012, 06:02:55 PM »
  Back to my original point, "Come on people, it not the technology that makes a great images, it's the content."

I'll say it again ---it's NOT the content!!!!  Take a bad photog and give them wonderful subject matter and you fail fail fail.  Take a great photog and give them nothing and they may make you surprised!  Part of being a photog is having the 'eye,' and part of that is seeing things, spotting things, noticing things that others do not see.  A great photog can make a piece of trash look good - but a bad photog can make something that looks awesome appear to be a piece of trash..(ok, not said as i did originally)

Chuck,
    I didn't know we were aruging...  ;)

I agree with everything you said, but I think you are only seeing part of my point.  ...how about...  would you agree that a great image has more to do with content rather than the technology used to capture the image?  When I see a great image, the first thing that comes to mind is NOT what kind of camera was used.

not argueing...just saying that content alone does not a great image make...just as a badass camera alone does not a great image make. 

all that said, there is another topic devoted to gear vs image quality.  Canon can't do a marketing campaign on a $2000 camera telling people it's not the camera its the content!  And that's what we should be talking about --- how not worth even talking about these specs are.  Yeah, it's the photographer that takes the great pic...but...  that doesn't mean a crap body should be bought...  I'll just stick to my 7d/5dmk3 combo if I want a sucky camera to be backup to my main body (I still like my 7d, but, the mk3 beats it at every turn from Af to color cast to IQ....lol)

I was hopeful for different specs... 21 point AF at least (with the same battery as the mk3 and the 7d and mk2!!!!)...

can i still get a decent shot with it?  Yes, but, given the choice I'll keep the 7d as back up (or save my pennies for another mk3 or a used 1d4) rather than shell out 2k on that...

so I'm actually totally agreeing with you in a weird way...  I'm just fired up cause these specs suck xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx....lol
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #223 on: September 14, 2012, 06:31:17 PM »
WHAT TOOK THEM SO G*****N LONG?!?

It's useless if it hasn't got a precise "camera direction" compass, otherwise I'm perfectly fine with my external tagger that doesn't drain the camera's battery.

I am a two system owner and both vendors don't seem to get it right ...

That's the depressing thing - Canon could get it right, and they actually did with the most of the 5d3. It's currently isn't their fault Sony doesn't license their tech to them but to Nikon. It's just that Canon's knows people are stuck to the brand because of the lenses/flashes and exploits it. And their marketing is very clever and goes to any lengths to make you buy the most expensive stuff by building annoyances into intermediary products. Meanwhile Nikon seems to produce more "complete" products, that's at least true for the d7000 and d600.

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« Reply #224 on: September 14, 2012, 06:36:36 PM »
And their marketing is very clever and goes to any lengths to make you buy the most expensive stuff by building annoyances into intermediary products. Meanwhile Nikon seems to produce more "complete" products, that's at least true for the d7000 and d600.
Very well articulated indeed.

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« Reply #224 on: September 14, 2012, 06:36:36 PM »