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Re: Reminder: Announcements on September 17, 2012
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2012, 11:32:26 AM »
a new 35L maybe now the 24-70 II has gone to retail?

What about a new 300 f4?

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Re: Reminder: Announcements on September 17, 2012
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2012, 11:32:26 AM »

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Re: Reminder: Announcements on September 17, 2012
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2012, 11:39:10 AM »
IF 6D would have 11 point AF (cross-type) with center point double cross-type then OK - I will probably get one. If it is just 1 cross-type point - 5D Mk II is better for my needs. Fingers crossed !


no problem as long as it's cheap around 1500.


I think it wont come cheaper then 2k. Well, Im not saying Ill buy it right after announcement but Im ready for 2k price tag (with AF imrpoved compared to Mk II). If its just 1 cross-type in the center I would take a second look at Mk II.

...I think that it was published on canonwatch that current 650D AF module is better then 5D Mk II. So putting worse AF then Rebel line into entry FF makes no sense to me...

http://www.canonwatch.com/review-rebel-t4ieos-650d-is-a-great-entry-level-dslr/
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Re: Reminder: Announcements on September 17, 2012
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2012, 12:25:02 PM »
IF 6D would have 11 point AF (cross-type) with center point double cross-type then OK - I will probably get one. If it is just 1 cross-type point - 5D Mk II is better for my needs. Fingers crossed !


no problem as long as it's cheap around 1500.


I think it wont come cheaper then 2k. Well, Im not saying Ill buy it right after announcement but Im ready for 2k price tag (with AF imrpoved compared to Mk II). If its just 1 cross-type in the center I would take a second look at Mk II.

...I think that it was published on canonwatch that current 650D AF module is better then 5D Mk II. So putting worse AF then Rebel line into entry FF makes no sense to me...

http://www.canonwatch.com/review-rebel-t4ieos-650d-is-a-great-entry-level-dslr/


Get ready for $2500 MSRP ;).
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Re: Reminder: Announcements on September 17, 2012
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2012, 12:29:48 PM »
IF 6D would have 11 point AF (cross-type) with center point double cross-type then OK - I will probably get one. If it is just 1 cross-type point - 5D Mk II is better for my needs. Fingers crossed !


no problem as long as it's cheap around 1500.


I think it wont come cheaper then 2k. Well, Im not saying Ill buy it right after announcement but Im ready for 2k price tag (with AF imrpoved compared to Mk II). If its just 1 cross-type in the center I would take a second look at Mk II.

...I think that it was published on canonwatch that current 650D AF module is better then 5D Mk II. So putting worse AF then Rebel line into entry FF makes no sense to me...

http://www.canonwatch.com/review-rebel-t4ieos-650d-is-a-great-entry-level-dslr/


Get ready for $2500 MSRP ;) .


A $2500 MSRP would mean a €2500 MSRP price in Europe. That would be a NON-competitive price. For 400 euro more, you can get the 5D MKIII. It just does not make sense unless it is the opening price that needs to go down with at least 600 euro but only after 4 to 6 months. By then, most may have saved the money to buy the 5D MKIII
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Re: Reminder: Announcements on September 17, 2012
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2012, 12:55:03 PM »
BTW:


Photokina opens on September 18th.

http://www.photokina.com/en/photokina/home/index.php

Is it common for exhibitors to bring out announcements one day before opening? So on the 17th?
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Re: Reminder: Announcements on September 17, 2012
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2012, 01:16:49 PM »
IF 6D would have 11 point AF (cross-type) with center point double cross-type then OK - I will probably get one. If it is just 1 cross-type point - 5D Mk II is better for my needs. Fingers crossed !


no problem as long as it's cheap around 1500.


I think it wont come cheaper then 2k. Well, Im not saying Ill buy it right after announcement but Im ready for 2k price tag (with AF imrpoved compared to Mk II). If its just 1 cross-type in the center I would take a second look at Mk II.

...I think that it was published on canonwatch that current 650D AF module is better then 5D Mk II. So putting worse AF then Rebel line into entry FF makes no sense to me...

http://www.canonwatch.com/review-rebel-t4ieos-650d-is-a-great-entry-level-dslr/


Get ready for $2500 MSRP ;).


Not likely but anything is possible I suppose.  If so, the wholesale price will allow room for the street price to come down pretty quickly to no more than $2100.   Who is this body targeted to... it'll be a good camera no doubt and could be used by beginners all the way to pros for certain types of shooting... but what is the primary target market?  At this point in time... 11 point AF, APS-C type body, 4.5 fps, SD card, etc. are all entry level features... for sports shooting on a budget the 7D is still the better choice...  so if sports is not the choice then the consideration is between a 6D and the 60D or 650D which means a huge difference in price... therefore, the person who chooses this body is going to be someone who is acutely aware of the IQ advantage of a FF sensor but has no need whatsoever for the better features of the 5D3.  Sales people in big box stores aren't going to be able to upsell the average consumer of the advantages of FF...  so how big is the market for a 6D?   Maybe it's huge, I don't know.




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Re: Reminder: Announcements on September 17, 2012
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2012, 01:17:34 PM »
Excuse me for saying this, but where the !@#$% are the 60D and 7D replacements?  Sheesh!

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Re: Reminder: Announcements on September 17, 2012
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Re: Reminder: Announcements on September 17, 2012
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2012, 01:22:42 PM »
Excuse me for saying this, but where the !@#$% are the 60D and 7D replacements?  Sheesh!

No need... those bodies still rock.

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Re: Reminder: Announcements on September 17, 2012
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2012, 01:28:04 PM »
Get ready for $2500 MSRP ;) .

A $2500 MSRP would mean a €2500 MSRP price in Europe. That would be a NON-competitive price. For 400 euro more, you can get the 5D MKIII. It just does not make sense unless it is the opening price that needs to go down with at least 600 euro but only after 4 to 6 months. By then, most may have saved the money to buy the 5D MKIII

5D3 is $3500 MSRP, regardless of the actual retail prices. I think it is logical to assume that the retail price of this rumored poor-man's 5D would be lower than it's MSRP as well. The old 5D2 is $2200 MSRP, but you can get it for $1899 from amazon (atm). If 6D was $2000 MSRP and even lower retail price, then who is going to buy either 5D3 or 7D2 (which should be near $1900 MSRP) ?? Not me! :D
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Re: Reminder: Announcements on September 17, 2012
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2012, 01:30:52 PM »
Hope to see a really innovative canon 6D like the Nikon D600! :)

Articulated screen, built-in time-lapse, built in flash ecc

PLEASE NO a stupid touch screen

+1

You and I think alike. I will only find the new 6D useful if it's in a compact size and comes with flipped screen & built-in flash. Built-in time lapse would be nice. But the most important is good AF and has MA.

This will be a perfect backup to my 5D3.

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Re: Reminder: Announcements on September 17, 2012
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2012, 01:40:56 PM »
Get ready for $2500 MSRP ;) .

A $2500 MSRP would mean a €2500 MSRP price in Europe. That would be a NON-competitive price. For 400 euro more, you can get the 5D MKIII. It just does not make sense unless it is the opening price that needs to go down with at least 600 euro but only after 4 to 6 months. By then, most may have saved the money to buy the 5D MKIII

5D3 is $3500 MSRP, regardless of the actual retail prices. I think it is logical to assume that the retail price of this rumored poor-man's 5D would be lower than it's MSRP as well. The old 5D2 is $2200 MSRP, but you can get it for $1899 from amazon (atm). If 6D was $2000 MSRP and even lower retail price, then who is going to buy either 5D3 or 7D2 (which should be near $1900 MSRP) ?? Not me! :D

Currently, the only reason to buy a 7D over a 60D or 5D2 is for the speed, AF, etc. for sports shooting... and those benefits will still exist over this alleged 6D.   So (as I said above) I see it the other way around... who will buy the 6D over a 5D3 or 7D?   Yes of course some will buy it... if you don't shoot sports, and don't need the advanced features of a 5D3, and understand the IQ advantage of FF over a crop (eg. 60/650D)... then this 6D is perfect... but how many consumers fit into that category?  You do, and so do many people on this site.... but that is a small slice of the market Canon needs to hit to make decent sales volume.

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Re: Reminder: Announcements on September 17, 2012
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2012, 01:45:51 PM »
So will be tonight around midnight EST?   Hope the 6D is crap... so I won't feel bad about my 5D2.  I don't want to get laughed at and ridiculed when out in public.  People with modern cameras already laugh when they see the outdated CF cards I still use and don't even have an articulating LCD.  It's embarrassing.
Then they don't know what they're talking & laughing about...  ::)

+1.  I like CF cards much better for their speed and durability.  I expect SD to someday take over the speed game and that devices would all have to conform to that new SD speed but that day is NOT TODAY.  While I still prefer a tiltable screen, I can see with the 5DIII and the D800 that it is vital that the buttons be placed where they are.  If the screen swings out from the left hinge it would block the left vertical buttons.  I love using my 60D and the swing doesn't seem to bother me.  My guess is that someday the entire back (except for the joystick and a menu button) will be articulated with very wide and high.  Perhaps a pro screen with nothing but buttons.  Here is where I'm laughing.....

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Re: Reminder: Announcements on September 17, 2012
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2012, 01:47:36 PM »
Hope to see a really innovative canon 6D like the Nikon D600! :)

Articulated screen, built-in time-lapse, built in flash ecc

PLEASE NO a stupid touch screen

+1

You and I think alike. I will only find the new 6D useful if it's in a compact size and comes with flipped screen & built-in flash. Built-in time lapse would be nice. But the most important is good AF and has MA.

This will be a perfect backup to my 5D3.

For anyone thinking of a 6D over a 5D3, it will be disappointing if there's no MA but that would certainly be a good feature to leave out in order to position this body sufficiently below the 5D3.   Yes, I know the 7D has MA but other than the FF sensor the specs of this body are all below the 7D so they could get away with leaving MA out.

If you shoot with a 5D3 now and use flash then you must have external flashes already... why then would you be so interested in a pop-up flash on a 6D as a backup to your 5D3?
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Re: Reminder: Announcements on September 17, 2012
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Re: Reminder: Announcements on September 17, 2012
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2012, 01:49:20 PM »
Hmm where has the forum topic for this post gone?

http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/09/adorama-jumps-the-gun-offers-eos-6d-preorder/

In any case, given the $2099 price, it's almost guaranteed we will get the 11pt AF Model.

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« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2012, 01:52:18 PM »
meh -- thanks for the laugh!  :)

I'm hoping the 6D will be better than its rumored spec.   What could save it is a revolutionary new sensor.   If it does have such a sensor that could explain why Adorama decided to sell 818 5D mk III bodies on ebay yesterday for $2750 each (2 1/4 million in revenue).

Lens - bring on the 300 f4L mk II or the 100-400 L mkII with rotating focus ring, not push-pull.  Especially that latter.    If I wind up switching to N I guess it won't matter, but such an update would make it harder to leave!

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« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2012, 01:52:18 PM »