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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #285 on: September 17, 2012, 10:58:27 AM »
I bet Canon sells a ton of these at BestBuy to soccer moms who will be told all about the benefits of a FF sensor and in a not so intimidating body.

Enthusiasts will most likely stay away as the excellent 5D2 offers a great value right now. Seriorsly Canon? One cross point AF point?!? Better snatch the 5D2s up while you can.
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #285 on: September 17, 2012, 10:58:27 AM »

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #286 on: September 17, 2012, 11:12:24 AM »
I bet Canon sells a ton of these at BestBuy to soccer moms who will be told all about the benefits of a FF sensor and in a not so intimidating body.

Is this common on CR? - These 6D threads are pockmarked with posts where you're basically disparaging someone as unintelligent or lazy and concluding that only "those people" would buy something you don't want.

It's not just immature, it's also sexist, racist and classist. Stop generalizing people into "less than me" classes like "noobs" "soccer moms" "students" or any other kind of jim crow bullS___.

If you need more buttons and switches on your camera to feel like you're smarter than women whose kids play soccer, by all means, upgrade yourself to this beauty and leave the rest of us dumb losers to fiddle with our toys:

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #287 on: September 17, 2012, 11:20:12 AM »
I'm disappointed that the camera has a pentaprism.  I was hoping for pentamirror.  That would have knocked down the price and weight even further.  I'm looking for a lightweight travel/hiking cam. 

Curious set of specs, in all.  Neither fish nor fowl.

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #288 on: September 17, 2012, 11:35:42 AM »
I bet Canon sells a ton of these at BestBuy to soccer moms who will be told all about the benefits of a FF sensor and in a not so intimidating body.

Is this common on CR? - These 6D threads are pockmarked with posts where you're basically disparaging someone as unintelligent or lazy and concluding that only "those people" would buy something you don't want.

It's not just immature, it's also sexist, racist and classist. Stop generalizing people into "less than me" classes like "noobs" "soccer moms" "students" or any other kind of jim crow bullS___.

If you need more buttons and switches on your camera to feel like you're smarter than women whose kids play soccer, by all means, upgrade yourself to this beauty and leave the rest of us dumb losers to fiddle with our toys:

2D Photography Rube Goldberg Machine

btw is not soccer! it's football :D

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #289 on: September 17, 2012, 11:37:12 AM »
Yuck!  No 5D/7D button layout for the 6D (6D on left, 5D on right)


(Dpreview:  http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-6d/)

Ok, I'm done, I've ranted enough on this thread.  Not buying a 6D.



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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #290 on: September 17, 2012, 11:40:01 AM »
Watched Jared Polin's quick look to 6D at Photokina.. and didn't really sold me to it, but at least it got that basic good feeling and grip!
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #291 on: September 17, 2012, 11:49:06 AM »
The only possible saving grace for the 6D is that, if this is like the 60D vs. D7000 situation, Canon has been more willing to drop prices to move cameras than Nikon.  The D7000 beat the 60D in most specs but when it was still selling for $1200+ (mainly due to the Thailand floods), I was able to get a refurbished 60D for $640 + tax through CLP.  Also, because the 60D was more clearly inferior to the 7D, Canon was able to sell both in fairly good numbers.  I haven't seen numbers for D7000 sales and I imagine they were much better than 60D sales, but at the same time I would also wager that the D7000 took away a lot of potential D300S sales because of how good it was, whereas the 60D did not take away many 7D sales.

In this situation, I suspect more potential D800 buyers would be swayed to the D600 vs. 5D3 buyers swayed to the 6D.  I also think Canon will more aggressively discount the 6D than the Nikon will the D600 next year.
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #291 on: September 17, 2012, 11:49:06 AM »

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #292 on: September 17, 2012, 12:00:35 PM »
also why is this camera being sold only in december????????

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #293 on: September 17, 2012, 12:02:52 PM »
It just feels like this camera was more of an attempt to hit a price point without trying to hit features of any other existing Canon camera rather than a model directed at a specific user base.

They avoided competing with the 60D, t4i & 5D3 by lacking live AF from the t4i, no headphone jack like the 5d3 and no tilt screen of the 60D & 4ti, no clean hdmi out, and no dual card slots.

For photography it seems weak as it is lacking a decent AF system (even something like the 7D), no dual card slots, or at least a single pro CF slot if you can only have 1 (such as the 7D), only 3 bracket exposure vs 7 of the 5d3, way slower than the 5d3 or 7D, no flash, no 100% view finder, only 1/4000 max shutter speed, only 1/180 max flash sync, and usb 2.0.

Then it seems that since this resulted in a body to inexpensive, they added gps & wifi which few people need in a DSLR rather than adding back some of the specs they removed to not compete with the other cameras.

It's a camera that seems weak no matter what area of photography you are in:
For sports - too slow and bad focus system, no CF or dual card slots, No 100%VF, no joystick, limited controls
For Wedding/Event - No dual card slot for backup, poor focus system, slow flash sync, No 100%VF, no af joystick
For video - No live AF, no swivel screen, no headphone jack, no clean hdmi, no dual cards for backup or overflow, no silent operation like the 5D3 or D600
For studio/landscape - No 100%VF, No Backup card, only 20MP vs the D600 & D800, limited DR most likely
For Travel/consumer - No popup flash, no card backup, no swivel screen, no live af, no touch screen

What/who is this camera for. This is clearly Canon's attempt to produce a camera without stepping on any other camera's toes.

Instead, the best camera for each item never include the 6D:
For sports - Buy the 1Dx, 7D, or even 5D3 (don't buy a 6D for this ever)
For Wedding/Event - buy the 5D3, 1Dx, then maybe a 7D or 6D (both have some negatives)
For video - Sony A99, 1Dc, 5D3, 1Dx, 60D,  t4i, then maybe a 6D
For studio/landscape - 5D3 or go Nikon because they are the best for this with the D800 & D600
For Travel/consumer - Nikon D600 or 5D3, t4i, then maybe i'd get a 6D

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #294 on: September 17, 2012, 12:08:28 PM »
I guess with the Canon 6D and Nikon D600 it´s the end of the semi-pro APS-C cameras, I think will not see D400 or 70D never.

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #295 on: September 17, 2012, 12:13:09 PM »
...Kind of surprised that they didn't adapt the 7D's system to FF though...
I agree with you, I don´t know how much cost a FF 20 mp sensor but I think Canon maybe can produce a FF 7D for the same price of 6D.

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #296 on: September 17, 2012, 12:16:06 PM »
is it only because of bad canon sample images... or is the D600 so much better?

speaking about sharpness...

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #297 on: September 17, 2012, 12:21:08 PM »
Honestly, I am stunned that it only has one cross-type AF point (granted the points that turn non-cross on the 5D3 work a lot better than the old non-cross type) and no assist points which will certainly make tracking certain things trickier than even on the 5D2.

It also seems a waste of time to keep making so many different AF systems and sensors. Why not re-use the 5D3 sensor and then plop in the 7D AF (although one shot center point this new one may well do better). With all the time spent doing that maybe they could focus on better low ISO DR and giving 5D3 a complete set of basic video usage features, etc.

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #297 on: September 17, 2012, 12:21:08 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #298 on: September 17, 2012, 12:26:59 PM »
is it only because of bad canon sample images... or is the D600 so much better?

speaking about sharpness...

to early to say and keep in mind that sample images from canon are out of camera JPEG while nikon samples images were captured in RAW and post processed in NX Capture...

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #299 on: September 17, 2012, 12:38:49 PM »
I think that's very clear what are going to happen.
For EF lens owners 5D3 is much better choice especially people will see a lot of 5D3 deals during holiday season. 
For people have no EF lens, D600 is the one for you.
There is no reason to buy 6D.
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« Reply #299 on: September 17, 2012, 12:38:49 PM »