Describe the 6D in one word...

[dilbert]

Surely I can't be the only xxD user excited about this camera?

• I really can't justify spending more than 2K on a body (or any photo/electronics purchase for that matter), & this sucker should be down close to early 7D money pretty soon
• remote control with live view from Android or iOS app
• built-in geotagging
• awesome low-light performance
• AF better than my current 40D, which is already pretty good
• AF better than 5DII (pretty much the same unit as the 40D's as I understand it)

Yes, the AF is not as good as the D600, and I'm hoping there are some more new lenses coming down the pipe before the end of the year, but I think this camera will take the place of the 5DII in the lineup, & they'll sell tons of them.

The 5DII sold well because it was a ground breaking camera with respect to video (full frame!) as well as its photographic performance for the price. The 6D does not have the luxury of being ground breaking in any area.

[Isurus]

Right now I'm just feeling irritated they didn't include GPS and wireless in the 5D MIII.  Given the $3500 price tag and the fact that they included it in a smaller, cheaper body suggests they could have to me.  I could get a lot of use out of both of those and I hate attaching bulky accessories to the camera.  Blah.

[simonxu11]

Anyway, 11 cross-type points well spread and the AF performance could have been questionable in comparison with D600's 39 points (9 cross-type); 10 linear + 1 cross type for a +2000$ camera in 2012 is what it is: insulting.

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[brianleighty]

Right now I'm just feeling irritated they didn't include GPS and wireless in the 5D MIII.  Given the $3500 price tag and the fact that they included it in a smaller, cheaper body suggests they could have to me.  I could get a lot of use out of both of those and I hate attaching bulky accessories to the camera.  Blah.

Well you're the ideal candidate for this camera then go buy one of these to serve that purpose.

[marekjoz]

One word?
Cheap-EF-sales-promoter.

[well_dunno]

Below is from 6D preview summary page from dpreview  :

Overall, though, it's difficult to shake the feeling that the EOS 6D simply lacks the 'wow' factor of its main rival. Whereas Nikon seems to have taken the approach of taking away as little as possible from D800 when creating the D600, Canon appears almost to have gone the other way, removing as much as it thinks it can get away with at the price. The result is the kind of conservative, slightly unimaginative design that's become the company's hallmark. It's still bound to be a very good camera, of course; just perhaps not quite as good as it could be.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-6d/6

[brianleighty]

The 5DII sold well because it was a ground breaking camera with respect to video (full frame!) as well as its photographic performance for the price. The 6D does not have the luxury of being ground breaking in any area.

I think it's a little early to say that. For the longest time I've thought, man they really should put wifi in a rebel body and make it work with Facebook and all the other social networks. I can't tell you how a big a pain it is trying to upload a photo from an slr vs my iphone where it's like two clicks. In this respect I think if they can do it properly that'll be the break away feature. That and the fact it can be remote controlled through an app. I'm sure some creative people will find ways use this with their iPads or such remotely. Could be very interesting. But again... it all depends on how good a job they did on it or if they just threw it together. I was expecting this feature in crop body rebel. But thinking about it now, I can see where they coming from. If they had it in crop body, then all those nice primes they have for their full frame wouldn't frame the same and so it would take away that value added feature. I could be wrong but I'm not aware of any other SLRs that offer this feature. If you true I think this could be a big deal. People can complain about this camera, but honestly it's not that bad. It's not a 5d Mark iii but after the price drops a couple hundred after the initial GOTTA HAVE IT group then I can see this doing well honestly. It looks like it should be at least better than the 5 mark ii sensor albeit less MP but that's fine by me. The higher ISO ranking means even though I have a Mark II, this might allow me to get a 2nd full frame that has even higher ISO capability than mine. The focusing system is at least slightly better. I think the main thing here is we heard rumors of a 7d 19 point system and got so excited about that, just like the D600 people thought it was going to be $1500. When you look at it from that perspective, it kind of sucks but if you just compare it to a 5d Mark ii then it's not that bad a camera. The one feature that makes this DOA for me is if they were idiots and removed AFMA. Hopefully they learned their lesson with the 60D but we'll see.

[brianleighty]

"Maybe."

(to be seen: High ISO noise handling, AF, AFMA)

Also 1 word to everyone going nuts already: "Relax."

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[brianleighty]

Every time Canon introduces a camera, there is whining about alleged "greediness" and building things "just for profit".  As usual, people are screaming "that's the last straw" and saying they're switching to another brand.

I tried two other brands for an extended period of time, spending quite a lot of money and time on them.  My theory was that the grass must be greener across the fence.  But working with the other brands made me realize that Canon's stuff is really outstanding, and the other brands weren't any better; they were actually worse in some important details.

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[Canon-F1]

i am still in shock.....

i still can´t believe the specs are true.... and this is what canon sets against the D600.

my impression is canon goes after the consumers who don´t know much about photography and tries to win them with "social media" features.

while nikon looks after what enthusiast want.

wifi.... well i tried it and is sucks when shooting RAW it´s pretty much useless for me.

GPS... yeah nice.. but i rather have a 100% viewfinder, 250/s sync speed and a 39 POINT AF system, or at least the 7D AF.  but not some REBEL AF system.

i thought the D600 sync speed is bad.. but 180/s??? 
not good for a strobist like me...

the sensor.. mhm.. it has to be fantastic to make up for the shortcomings.. and i doubt it will.
the D600 seems to have a great sensor so it will be hart to beat nikon on that.

[Canon-F1]

Surely I can't be the only xxD user excited about this camera?

• I really can't justify spending more than 2K on a body (or any photo/electronics purchase for that matter), & this sucker should be down close to early 7D money pretty soon

rumored price 2099$ is above 2k.. just as info.

and i rather spend 800$ more for the 5D MK then this FF rebel.

last 2750$ deal for the 5D MK3 looks like a bargain compared to this...
poor 6D pre-order morons....

[brianleighty]

Man 'Screw-Canon' (hyphen to make "one word")
SO basically I spent $1500 for weather sealing on my 5Diii. Plus the $800 on wifi; and to get GPS another $280. The release of the 6D is my tipping point, Canon camera only cares about profit, not innovation. The 5Diii was not the best camera Canon could have released at that price, they intentionally hold back just for profit. The iPhone5 was just released only one year later with better everything then its predecessor and at the same price point; not only that it has better tech then my 5Diii and only cost $167 in material to make. http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4396139/IPhone-5-bill-of-materials-comes-in--167-50?itc=edit_stub
More evidence is the dumbing down of sensors, I'm sure the 6D picture will be 'almost as good' as the 5Diii. The new T4i with Digic 5 should outperform the 7D but Canon wants to keep the out dated 7D selling at least for another year given the recent firmware updates.
I'll keep my Canon cameras because of the lenses, but the fact is others have already beat Canon for less and Canon releases this.

TRANSLATION: My boyfriend has hit me for the last time! Screw him! I'm leaving tonite, packed my stuff up already, walking out the door. I'd like to see him try and stop me this time.......... but I do love him...... maybe he'll change. Yeah, gonna stick with him.

LOL! Love the analogy. Yup, as much as these people moan they're not going to leave. Unfortunately

[Canon-F1]

LOL! Love the analogy. Yup, as much as these people moan they're not going to leave. Unfortunately

well they don´t spend MORE money either.. at least i will not buy this camera...  i stick 2 more years to my 5D MK2 then.

[brianleighty]

LOL! Love the analogy. Yup, as much as these people moan they're not going to leave. Unfortunately

well they don´t spend MORE money either.. at least i will not buy this camera...  i stick 2 more years to my 5D MK2 then.

Which is fine. If you don't feel Canon is worth the money then that's your choice. That's why I said unfortunately because until Canon does loose market share you're likely to be disappointed in them. As I said in another thread, Nikon is trying to gain market share and Canon is happy with what they've got. So until that changes the Nikon's are going to offer more for less (at least as far as tech specs go) but that doesn't mean it's going to sell better than the Canon because Canon has a larger market share.

[Musouka]

Right now I'm just feeling irritated they didn't include GPS and wireless in the 5D MIII.  Given the $3500 price tag and the fact that they included it in a smaller, cheaper body suggests they could have to me.  I could get a lot of use out of both of those and I hate attaching bulky accessories to the camera.  Blah.

In its 6D first impression, DPReview wrote: "Construction is solid, if perhaps not offering the same bullet-proof feel as the 5D Mark III or 7D. In part this is because the 6D has a plastic top plate, which is necessary to allow the WiFi and GPS to work. The rest of the body uses a magnesium alloy shell, and Canon describes it as 'dust and drip-proof'.